Yeah, Aspirax :) Donate $20/mo. and I'm sure Hogie will see things closer to your perspective. But when 100 children spoil the fun of the 12 adults, and piss one off badly, then he's going to pop. Hogie has RL issues to deal with, and money is one of them. He loves the project, but doing something for free when you have RL issues can get on your nerves. If he were more comfortable, I'm sure he'd be more jolly. Cut him some slack. He doesn't rampage often enough for it to be a problem. Khuong's the loose cannon! I seen you, Khuong! I seen it!

How about you all just chill out and stop crying. As has been said before, this is a free service. If you don't like the way it's going get off your ass and do something to make it better and stop bitching. Hogie and Trump and all the devs out there do an insane job as it is doing all they do with jobs, etc.

If you disagree with what Hogie did, keep it to yourself.

"If you don't like the way it's going get off your ass and do something to make it better and stop bitching."

"If you disagree with what Hogie did, keep it to yourself."

Which is it? Should I discuss potential problems to make the project present itself more maturely or should I keep it to myself?

Yes thanks for generalism, I didnt know that I was acting like that. Thanks for the pointer :)

In this case yes, you can continue screaming at a brick wall, or shut up about it. You aren't doing any good, and being asinine about it at that. If you want to be mature about it send him an email, and try not to be nasty there.

Okay, okay, you got me there.
I don't know each of the devs, or how they act on the forums.

My apologies. This was just a specific case with this posting thread.

I'm not being nasty. I said, in a very reasonably polite post that I perceive it to be unprofessional to post what was posted.

It was many forum members that got nasty with me, telling me to help make things better, but shut up at the same time.

Then take the advice you are given and you won't have a problem. The professional way of doing these things isn't making a scene on a public board, but in fact, try to address the issue privately, outside of "public scrutiny."

To be honest, I don't understand why you would want the project to be more "mature". I like it laid-back. I like it rough. If Hogie were more professional, he'd censure everyone for posting in the wrong forums, and suggest they not do that anymore, yadda yadda yadda. He lets a lot slide, and I think that's a good thing.

He really doesn't rampage enough for it to be a problem, and it's always with people who refuse to acknowledge that they should reevaluate their course of action.

That's now my job, and it's going to start happening more. I've watched these boards go way out of hand and they need some moderation.

That's your idea of professionalism? Not mine.

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I never said that being professional also equates to being insane about the rules.

Careful with the word you choose to put into my mouth.

YOU came here yelling and bitching about how you thought something someone did was innapropriate. If you're going to complain now about how people are treating you, you should first realize why. I'll let you figure that one out yourself, though.

I did no yelling and bitching.
I also didn't say it was innapropriate.

I'm going to bow out of this discussion and "agree to disagree" at this stage, because it seems apparent that we are no longer discussing the same topic.

Why do you keep claiming I'm putting words in your mouth? You never define a single word you use, but when we use it incorrectly, we're "putting words in your mouth"?? Define everything, then, so that I can debate on an open playing field.

That's probably a good idea, but really, keep this stuff out of the public forums, it just makes people mad, when your opinions about what Hogie did should have really been directed towards him, not the entire eqemu community.

:D It's cool.