At least this few day long break will throw off some hardcore campers spawn timers on mobs which they dont feel like sharing :P

9 pages of whining and why this hard drive? you could use this one etc etc. EqEmu is free ALL of it but cave dudes rogean and quite a few other developers time is not free in order to run these servers they have to take time out of their busy lives ( or maybe not so busy... but who cares) we should send them money to just pay for their time that goes into this project so that we can even play. yet, thats not what we do. Instead we make a 9 page thread of crap that i have to scan through to find any information about the server. These people arent even asking for donations for the countless days of programming that has gone into bring your peq and eqemu... they are asking for donations to help provide a server that is more stable for the players. so when shit like this happens they can get the server up and running SO YOU the player can get back to playing all that much faster. Donate for their time. Donate for the server. Or choose to play on the server for free. Whatever you decide to do stop complaining and whining.
To clear one thing up i do not know much about servers but i do know that once the new server is up and running we are going to be hosting PEQ and something else on it. The other thing will pay for peq to be hosted for free saving everyone a lot of money and allowing donations to go to better uses. Hopefully something nice for the developers.
Darthal

Maj'Qah!<cool>

I've already made a hefty donation, but I'm going to up the ante a bit here.

I'm going to match donations in $100 increments for the next two weeks or until the target amount has been reached, which ever comes first. So if you donate $100 I'll donate $100, if 4 ppl donate $25 each, I'll donate $100, if you donate $200, I'll donate $200, etc etc....

This doesn't include Gaeorns $1000 donation he's promised! Sorry Gaeorn, I make good money, but even this is going to strain my budget a bit depending on how much this encourages others to donate. I think it's worth it though or I wouldn't make the offer.

This matching program is effective today. I'll match all donations made on 8-30-2010 to 9-13-2010 to help get the servers we need.

I'm hoping this will encourage the rest of you to dig deep and make a donation. Also, depending on the response this generates, I might extend the offer. This is your chance to make a difference folks. Time to put up.

I'm pretty sure donations go to cavedude00@gmail.com on paypal.com, I'll let Gaeorn chime in here to confirm that. At least, that is where my last donation went to.

And for those of you making alternate suggestions on hardware, I'm sure the intent is good, but like Gaeorn said, they discussed it quite a bit, it's been decided already. I've looked at the list of hardware and it's a very solid and expandable setup and I know what I'm talking about as I've spent many years in IT, from a basic tech when i started out up to managing an 800 workstation call center (the IT portion of it, not the center itself). Even though I don't do that work anymore, to stressful.

Those of you complaining about down time, start contributing to the code base or make a donation to get the hardware needed, either that or stop your whining. All you are doing is discouraging those folks who are putting a lot of their own personal time and finances into a project that you are deriving free entertainment from. Try doing something about it instead of talking about it. ie donate code, money, or constructive bug reports that helps the coders.

Personally, I highly appreciate all the people who have put a lot of work into making eqemulator what it is today. Thank you, All of you.

Ok, off to grab a bite to eat then back to Mafia II. (whimper)

What I'm trying to say is FNW should designate at least 1 or 2 developers as contact points with the hosting company. Right now it seems FNW is the only one that can talk them, why not let CD or others speak on his behalf?!

At this point, we don't even know what the hell is going on other than CD has contacted FNW. Has FNW even made contact yet with the host server? Or is the hosting server just keep delay the request for some reason??

Yes, the correct address to donate to is cavedude00@gmail.com.

Great point, obviously best case scenario would be the ability to directly contact someone who can touch the server. I'd imagine this has been addressed already?

Maladien, that's a great gesture.

Admins and those who give their time and resources to the Peq server, thank you. It's a great setup with the website, magelo, database etc. etc. I know I'll play on this server for the foreseeable future.

Alright, Gaeorn made it very clear, but im going to go into it in more detail. The server is in Co. it is being hosted for FREE by a company FNW worked for. Cavedude asked FNW to put in the request to restart the server (which everyone was HOPING would fix the server) now im pretty sure a request was made days ago and the server has been restarted. There are many problems that can happen to a server that a simple reboot will not fix. Someone will have to go and physically diagnose and fix the problem. You cant expect cavedude to call the company and get them to diagnose and fix a server they are hosting for free. So it falls to FNW since he is the only one even close to the area the server is. This man works and has his own life and is clearly very busy. So we have to wait till he gets a break in his very busy life to go and fix a server that he no longer even runs. Is everyone starting to see why PEQ needs a server that atleast someone who is still actually working on the server to be able to fix and work on it. This is not simply a problem calling FNW or calling the company and asking for a restart is going to fix. Im sure this is comething that all the developers of PEQ have thought a lot about to create better stability to PEQ as a whole and this is the solution they came up with. If it was as simple as having FNW say hey, this is cavedude if he calls and ask to reset the server he is speaking for me(FNW) then im sure we wouldnt be having this problem right now. PEQ needs a new server.

Since the server is still down, I'm guessing Cavedude sent an email to FNW about the server and FNW never bothered to read it and nobody ever called the hosting company for reset.....that would be my best guess.

You'd be wrong, but that's ok.

http://www.catwack.com/pics/1034.jpg

And for those who continue to do it...

http://antipinoy.com/wp-content/uplo...0/07/whine.jpg
http://files.samhart.net/humor/MOAR.jpg

This is just a wild guess, but.. you didn't read page one of this thread...

There are only 3 possibilities

1. like you said, Host got the message, rebooted the server, but the server did not come back up

2. Host has been contacted, but has not reboot it yet for whatever reason

3. FNW has not yet contacted the host, either did not read the msg from CD or just too busy with other stuff (vacation maybe?) and put it off.


Which one do you think is the most likely case?

stop repeating what has been repeated 20 times already you waste my time with this babble

Do you guys monitor the PEQ server using any performance monitoring software? Specifically thinking CPU usage, disk i/o, network usage, and memory usage. If you don't already, the second box for the new setup would be a perfect place to put some software (ala Cacti), assuming it will be operating 24/7.

It's important to know where your bottlenecks are so you can spend money efficiently when upgrading.

On the existing server, nobody but FNW had permissions to do proper performance monitoring. This is yet another thing we want improved.

For what it's worth, on the subject of choosing to either restore on a new server from a backup, or wait for the most up to date data, I'm in favor of the latter. This is purely selfish though :wink: , as I don't relish camping Phinny for the last piece of the mage epic another few weeks (just finally got the staff the night before the crash, and he is a 3 day spawn). I suspect others are in the same position though. Plus any recent data from the crash might help troubleshoot what the issue is.

Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.

/smack vaulk

What are you talking about? What changes? The server is down, dude. There aren't any changes going on.

People were claiming a few posts up that the server was reset but it still doesn't boot which would infer that something was changed to prevent PEQ from loading.

Evidently he IS repeating it for the Very simple reason that it is Obvious that so many posting on this thread are Not reading everything that has been posted here & on Other related threads on the forum.

/wedge

Nobody reads Darthal posts because he types at a 2nd grade reading level. It's a blob of text with incorrect spacing and no paragraphs.

Now to be perfectly fair... the average American Novelist writes at about a 4th grade reading level... Meaning the average American reads at roughly a 4th grade level...
Even if Darthal did write at a second grade level, big whoop... people would be able to understand him just fine... as opposed to the general Government Document which is written at roughly a 12th grade level.

well lets see, if they arent reading every post thenw hat makes them read that one? lol it needs COLORS!, ITALICIZATION, UNDERLINING, and BOLD type font!

Edited my post for reasons of civility...
Though i would like to catch you in the arena.

I was looking through Eqemu's webpage earlier and saw something interesting. Almost all of the servers run off of this server's database. Because of that, wouldn't you think that the people running this server know what they are doing? People who are bitching should stop and donate instead to help them make it even better. Seeing the cost to run a server similar to the one we get to play on for free, shouldn't we help out? anyone who can even spare a dime should donate what they can. Its late i'm tired and i'm just ranting.

I thank everyone involved in creating this great server and I apologize to the Developers, staff and others involved in some way for all of this bs.

I was looking through Eqemu's webpage earlier and saw something interesting. Almost all of the servers run off of this server's database. Because of that, wouldn't you think that the people running this server know what they are doing? People who are bitching should stop and donate instead to help them make it even better. Seeing the cost to run a server similar to this server, i'm amazed that we get to play on it for free. What is being asked to make it even better makes me believe that anyone who can even spare a dime should donate what they can.

I thank everyone involved in creating this great server and I apologize to the Developers, staff and others involved in some way for all of this bs.

Its late i'm tired and i'm just ranting.

These last few posts have my head spinning as to who's fighting with whom, but if there was some confusion over my post earlier, I just wanted to add that it was concerning Rogean's post on page 8:

If this was taken as something other than one opinion from a player trying to contribute constructively, it was taken incorrectly. If such opinions are not welcome, I apologize and will not post any further.

could this be the end of PEQ?

Clearly you know nothing of systems administration, or much about computers in general. There are plenty of reasons why a system might not boot properly after a problem that has nothing to do with changes being made to the system.

And ultimately, that person's statement was merely a guess. There is no evidence to suggest his guess is correct. In fact, there is some limited evidence to the contrary. Best I can tell, the server has not been rebooted yet. But that is still a guess based upon very limited evidence.

And, assuming I am correct and the server has not yet been rebooted, no, I do not know why not. But before certain people get into a tissy fit about this, consider that since the evidence is very limited one way or the other, the system may have been rebooted and simply still not be responding for reasons unknown.

O.O

No.

PEQ is the eqemulator test server. EQemu would have to shut down before that would happen and even then I'm willing to bet someone would still be hosting PEQ. Read page one of this thread, you'll see that the main admin is out of town till today.

I guess I just assumed it was rebooted and didn't come back online. Maybe it wasn't rebooted. I should really not comment on what I don't know about /sigh
cavedude00 is back today tho and I'm hoping it will be back online within the next day or two once he can get access to it and figure out whats going on.

Which is a good thing, cause I've already played through Mafia II twice since it's been down. Going back through it again and unlocking achievements now /cry

Thank you. We deal with this every time there are problems. It's people like you that keep us going.

Such feedback is always welcome. In response to it, we would not go back to a backup unless it was absolutely necessary. We completely understand that even a few hours of rollback can make a huge difference.

/sigh

PEQ has been around longer than nearly all the other servers in the EQemu community and it will be around after most of the currently active ones have disappeared. PEQ has been through much worse than this and survived. Sure, we have lost server population, but since the players who leave tend to be the whiny, unhappy players who expect flawless service for free, is that really such a bad thing? Those who stick around tend to have a server of happy and helpful players when they return.

Wtf dude, you should probably stop the assumptions then.

You also just made 2 posts that completely contradict each other. I posted the following:


and you post

Then you completely reverse your story a few posts later and say exactly the same thing I said?!?!??

wtf?

@badplayer

You are also making an assumption. You are assuming that they Were able to immediately contact FNW as I believe, and I may be wrong, he was supposed to be out of town. If there is anything more wrong than something like a simple reboot can handle it could be a simple software glitch that would need someone familiar with the program to straighten out. It could even be something as simple as some noob at the hosting company feeling too busy to screw around with a free game server while he/she has other servers to keep track of that they actually get paid for operating. For that matter who says that our server is the only one on their site that is not working correctly.

I said the server has not been rebooted as far as I can tell. I also stated that what you said in the following quote was incorrect:

How do my two statements conflict with each other? Apparently you are unable to see that FNW could have been informed and responded so we know he is aware of the problem, but at the same time the server has not yet been rebooted. Your statement said FNW probably had not read an email and the hosting company had not been called. But we got a response from FNW so we know he was aware of the problem. This shows that your statement that you think cavedude merely sent an email to FNW and FNW had not yet read it was wrong.

There is a difference between the server not being rebooted and people not being informed that the server needs to be rebooted. Your statement above (first quote in this message) says you do not believe people at the hosting company were informed. My statement says the server was not rebooted. The two are not discussing the same thing.

Based upon your logic, asking someone to do something is exactly the same as it having been done. Those of us with children know that is often not the case :)

In any case, I'm getting very tired of your attitude. You appear to only be here to cause trouble and be negative. So far, your posts have all been speculation without any evidence. They have all been very negative and at best have been questioning how things have been handled. At worst, they have, for all intents and purposes, accused the devs of incompetence. I have yet to see a single post you have made in this thread that was of any use to anyone.

Apparently you are so frustrated with being unable to play on PEQ that you feel you should try to make life miserable for those who are putting their time and effort in to providing you a game to play at no cost to you. I am politely asking you to stop now, before my patience runs out.

This forum is full of 11 year olds. Including the moderators.

Earlier in this thread:

Need I say more?

I don't have any attitude, you tried to claim I'm some kind of idiot that doesn't know anything about computers. I was talking about technical issues only such as two $800 raid cards being astronomically expensive for a 300 population server since the hard drives don't even exceed the i/o capability of a pentium 4 southbridge.

When ever someone plays the video game everquest alot of hard work and time goes in to playing the game so when the server is down emotions run high.

What many people do not seem to realize is that there is this thing called life outside of this screen you are reading my post from now.

I have played EQ for years and years on and off, and time away from EQ when you didnt want to separate is hard, but life goes on people.

Gaeorn and others who are still active guardians of PEQ are in the same boat as all of us and i am sure want nothing more than to be back online and killing stuff.

I for one have been spending more time with the gf and making her happy, and also got a 15 page paper done that is not even due till the end of the semester.

Once Gaeorn gets more custody of PEQ good things will happen.

Dont think all of us are upset, most of us do see and very much value the hard work you and others put in to this server and i have nothing negative to say about how anything has really been handled. Because SHIT HAPPENS