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Xabob 06-21-2004 01:00 PM

Request:Mini-Login
 
I Am calling out to Anyone who can Write a New mini-login
So that we can Run Lan Games make sure are servers are set up Right before we put them up ect so if there is anyone willing to make the new Mini-Login i would very greatful :D

animepimp 06-21-2004 03:29 PM

I think by posting this you've jsut volunteered to do it :) Who better to do it than someone who really wants to use it, helps make sure it gets done right and quickly.

Virus11 06-21-2004 05:26 PM

It's possible to just setup a normal server and lock it, but set all the people you want to allow on's status at like 100.

Xabob 06-21-2004 07:35 PM

^_^ Lol i would do it but i don't know C++

Cisyouc 07-23-2004 01:20 AM

I think this is more needed then some people realize, since minilogin broke theres been alot of on and off broken servers, I think this would take some pressure off the logins. Remember the long downage recently?

apok 07-24-2004 02:08 PM

I too would like to see the return of minilogin. Some friends and I are still wanting to work up a custom server but really would like to work via our VPN to get the basics done.

hypershadow66 07-24-2004 08:04 PM

minilogin still wouldnt work if you had the latest patch tho right?

animepimp 07-25-2004 02:41 AM

It would work with the new login if it was rewritten which is what this thread is about. Please read the whole thread before responding to it. But it would not help people who cannot play right now because the server code is still incompatible.

Sensu-Bean 07-27-2004 05:47 PM

mini-login was 'never' released open source. i always thought that was so fubar, since eqemu is opens source. if mini-login was going to come back, the dev who made it would release the source or keep it updated. sure its possible to recode it, but i dont see it happening if someone hasnt already.

on a side note, it would be a nice feature to implement into freaku, if its dev would put in an option for lan support. host/connect to.

fathernitwit 07-29-2004 02:23 AM

Just a note for this thread...

the login protocol has COMPLETELY changed... as far as I can tell anyways (not sure what it was like between 2002 and now)... it used to be based on the same protocol as the rest of the game, but now it is not.

I have been working on a login server, and am having decent success at it , the protocol is fairly simple. I have looked at that ancient mini-login code, and decided to write mine from scratch. One area that I am having huge problems is decrypting the login/password from the stream, and the communication between the world server and the login server... if anybody has knowledge in this area, please PM me.


Does anybody know if there are real or legal reasons that nobody out there has written an open source login server since 2002? That kinda bothers me, since the new login protocol is so simple, I figure SOMEBODY would have figured it out by now...

kathgar 07-29-2004 05:51 AM

Yes, it would be folly is base the new login on the old code. It would almost be as bad as trying to put this image together.
http://members.cox.net/~kathgar/ikea_construction.gif
Anyways, the old login server had licensure problems to begin with. With the new NEW login on test at the moment it would not be all that useful to work on the old new login.

Xabob 07-29-2004 09:08 AM

Lol and as for mini-login not being open source theres a very good reson for that the same reson the normal login server is not open source i was talking with BS last night its becuse it has EQ crypto in it and well as he said
Quote:

Xabob anyone with intelligence can do bad stuff with it
So sorry it will NEVER be open source or sony would be on are ass

Tertiary 07-29-2004 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xabob
Lol and as for mini-login not being open source theres a very good reson for that the same reson the normal login server is not open source i was talking with BS last night its becuse it has EQ crypto in it

Minilogin had no encryption/decryption in it, hence why it used IP addresses for authentication.

Xabob 07-29-2004 03:28 PM

it had to use the crypto becsue it was hard coded into the Eqgame.exe so there for mini-login has the crypto in the source

"Take foot and place in mounth"

kathgar 07-29-2004 07:40 PM

Yeah.. Xabob you are the one that should be putting your foot in your mouth. You are incorrect. None of the publically availible logins could decrypt.

Xabob 07-29-2004 08:31 PM

Listen this is what baron told me and i am going to go with what he says and he says that the mini login has the crypto i even asked him So why dose it matter its out dated crypto and thats when he said

Xabob anyone with intelligence can do bad stuff with it

Here i will post the irc log

Code:

[02:22] <Memener> i also found alot of neat stuff in my eqemu OLD stuff folder
[02:23] <Xabob> i still have the frist emu patcher
[02:23] <Memener> me to
[02:24] <Xabob> i tryed to use it but it didn't work lol
[02:24] <Baron-Sprite> Xabob
[02:24] <Baron-Sprite> that's so old
[02:24] <Baron-Sprite> it was shown once or twice
[02:24] <Xabob> i know but that was the frist time i saw it
[02:24] <Baron-Sprite> then they yanked it from theaters and stopped putting it in movies
[02:24] <Xabob> haha why?
[02:24] <Baron-Sprite> because it fuckign sucked
[02:24] <Baron-Sprite> hard to believe anyone ever approved it
[02:25] <Baron-Sprite> every game ever created has a better trailer then that
[02:25] <Baron-Sprite> have you seen the halo 2 trailer in theaters?
[02:25] <Xabob> i know thats why i laughed so hard
[02:25] <Xabob> i am like jesus who the hell would make somthing like this
[02:25] <Baron-Sprite> every movie I have seen when halo 2 plays everyone starts cclapping
[02:25] <Baron-Sprite> well like half the theater
[02:25] <Baron-Sprite> the old people are confused
[02:25] <Xabob> haha
[02:26] <Xabob> that just sucked tho
[02:29] <Xabob> if i would have seen that b4 i played eq for the frist time i would have never bought it
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[02:29] -LogServ:#eqemu- Stats will be avaiable at http://www.eqemulator.net/stats/eqemu.html when Logs are processed next
[02:29] <Memener> ok just get this right... i cant give the source code of minilogin out and it is useless to me becuase its old and i am not a hacker...(dont bite my head off.. thats already happen to day...)
[02:30] <Xabob> u have the source?
[02:30] <Memener> to the old minilogin that solar made
[02:30] <Xabob> and whos not leting u give it out
[02:31] <Memener> its works with EQEmu verson like 2.3 or something close to that
[02:31] <Memener> [Baron-Sprite] and [devn00b]
[02:31] <Xabob> lol
[02:31] <Xabob> is it copywrited?
[02:31] <Memener> well they said if i do i will get rapped
[02:32] <Memener> i dont know i dont think so
[02:32] <devn00b> it is
[02:32] <devn00b> by quagmire and solar
[02:32] <Xabob> then ur screwed u can't give it out
[02:32] <Memener> well then i wont
[02:32] <Xabob> if it wasn't copy writed i would say go for it lol
[02:32] <devn00b> his copy might not have the headers. but the offical copy does
[02:33] <Tarzok> Bah, time to stop playing far cry and head to sleep - night everybody.
[02:33] <Xabob> but i don't understand why it matters anymore
[02:34] <Baron-Sprite> bye Tarzok
[02:34] <Baron-Sprite> Xabob security issues
[02:34] <Memener> i understand it now
[02:34] <Xabob> ahh ok
[02:34] * Tarzok is now known as Tarzok|Sleep
[02:34] <Memener> i can see it
[02:34] <Baron-Sprite> and pissing off a bunch of code hackers is geenrally a bad idea
[02:34] * waternorth has joined #eqemu
[02:34] <Rippan> I want too see that documentary about that eq guy who shot him self, anyone got a link for that?
[02:34] <Memener> lol
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[02:34] <Memener> ROFL
[02:34] <NS-1> I have detected elevated stress patterns in your voice Memener, is everything alright?
[02:35] <Baron-Sprite> when humans kill themselves it's delightful
[02:35] <waternorth> I want RoN
[02:35] <waternorth> Anyone want to play RoN
[02:35] <Tarzok|Sleep> RoN rules
[02:35] <Baron-Sprite> 1 less person I need to destroy when I rule the world
[02:35] <Baron-Sprite> I'll play ron if you don't suck
[02:35] <Tarzok|Sleep> I'd play it, but I'm headed to sleep
[02:35] <waternorth> I suck :(
[02:36] <Memener> what is loin_opcodes.h file for?
[02:36] * Tarzok|Sleep has quit IRC (Quit:  )
[02:36] <Xabob> doh i forgot that w/e u have in a no rent bag goes bye bye well theres 200p down the drain
[02:36] <Baron-Sprite> hahaha you got fucked
[02:36] <Baron-Sprite> loser
[02:36] <Xabob> it was just dumb shit like a gem or 2
[02:38] <Memener> its the only file that i see it talking about the licenses and its says that it is under the GNU license
[02:40] <Xabob> ware did like solar and all those other dev's go that kinda went poof
[02:43] <Memener> ROFL
[02:43] <NS-1> I have detected elevated stress patterns in your voice Memener, is everything alright?
[02:44] <Memener> i found an old file and it can still be found it can still be downloaded
[02:45] <Xabob> haha what file is that?
[02:45] <Memener> not sure if i should say
[02:46] <Baron-Sprite> even tho it's ironic
[02:46] <Baron-Sprite> ls and minilogin source
[02:46] <Baron-Sprite> is protected by dmca
[02:46] <Xabob> like ware the emu's servers?
[02:46] <Baron-Sprite> and any copies of current source were obtained in violation of 1201 a
[02:47] <Memener> kinda of it files for everqest so it will work with a old verson of eqemu
[02:47] <Xabob> oh
[02:47] <Memener> i download the source sometime in 2002
[02:47] <Baron-Sprite> also
[02:47] <Baron-Sprite> if anyone did release it
[02:47] <Xabob> lol i have those on my web sever and the CoE patcher lol
[02:47] <Memener> off of the eqemu site
[02:47] <Baron-Sprite> they would be in violation of 1201 E
[02:48] <Memener> it didnt say that when i download it
[02:48] <Baron-Sprite> doesn't have to, it's copyrighted works under protection of dmca
[02:48] <Baron-Sprite> sec will pull up
[02:49] <Memener> ok... so i have had it for 2 years ?
[02:49] <Baron-Sprite>  No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that -
[02:49] <Baron-Sprite> (A)
[02:49] <Baron-Sprite> is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;
[02:50] <Baron-Sprite>  As used in this subsection -
[02:50] <Baron-Sprite> (A)
[02:50] <Baron-Sprite> to ''circumvent a technological measure'' means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and
[02:50] <Baron-Sprite> and since login is crypto, teh b0rk
[02:50] <Xabob> haha http://stratege.ru/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2621 omg lol
[02:51] <Memener> ok i havnt done any of that...
[02:51] <Baron-Sprite> haha goddamn russians
[02:52] <Baron-Sprite> (A)
[02:52] <Baron-Sprite> No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
[02:52] <Baron-Sprite> it's basically like buying a stolen vcr
[02:53] <Baron-Sprite> I'm just saying if someone released minilogin or login then they could goto federal pound me in the ass with a black cock prison
[02:53] <Xabob> wasn't there a geocites site that was hosting the souce
[02:53] <froster> anyone know if I can have a mob always drop one thing i.e bone chips, and in addition drop something else?
[02:53] <Baron-Sprite> dunno but every person that has ever gone looking for ls source has ended up banned
[02:54] <Memener> ...?
[02:54] <Xabob> lol wow u guys really care about it
[02:54] <Memener> this is what i see.. http://www.memener.com/UpLoads/03922435.JPG
[02:54] <Baron-Sprite> soe cares
[02:55] <Xabob> even on outdated crypto?
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[02:55] <Baron-Sprite> 1) that's only a .h file, 2) it's part of a copyrighted work so if you wanna release that .h file go nuts, but anything else = bad
[02:55] <Baron-Sprite> Xabob anyone with intelligence can do bad stuff with it
[02:56] <Memener> so if someone use a GNU file in there program they can copy right it?
[02:56] <Baron-Sprite> and all the offical versions of the source have our copyright tags, which is the version that would be considered in any lawful practices
[02:56] <Baron-Sprite> they can copyright the work as a whole, but can't sell that piece of it unless they created it
[02:57] <Baron-Sprite> gnu is really pretty stupid
[02:57] <Baron-Sprite> not to mention you can copyright the methods for using a gnu file
[02:57] <Baron-Sprite> like if I had a text file that said a
[02:57] <Baron-Sprite> and gnued it
[02:57] <Baron-Sprite> then wrote a program that turned that 1 letter into an operating system
[02:58] <Baron-Sprite> I could still copyright the program, even if the 1 file that powered it all was gnu
[02:58] <Xabob> ic


Pretty long lol

kathgar 07-29-2004 08:44 PM

Hi. Some of the code in the logins is my code. I am right. Shut up.


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