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warlockz 07-25-2004 03:21 PM

Scorpious2k Forwarned
 
This post is to forwarn anyone planning on Playing on the Scorpious 2k server.
since efforts to get change made to an obvious imbalance in the game which is clearly exploitative I have no choice but to warn anyone else of this clear and obvious imbalance.

if you plan on playing on this server do yourself a huge favor
only make a wizard.
they are clearly imbalanced and can without much effort defeat any mob currently on that server.
this will allow you to gain all the fantastic items currently dropping off any mob and level with ease.

as for other classes (more specifically any class thats currently gimped on the server which there are many)
you'll be able to lvl just fine nothing from lvl 1-65 should be a problem, certain spell lines will no longer work after a certain point, some spells don't work at all.
if you wish to voice any frustration to the S2K GM's I suggest your better off keeping it to yourself.
unless your a wizard your Sh** out of luck.
there is some light at the end of the tunnel however for the spell casting classes. there is one item that will allow the end game NPC's to be effected.
Globe of the Familiar which allows you to summon the Greater Familiar which allows Wizards to effect end game NPC's but....
you can only gain this by winning an event.
personally I think this item should be a purchasable item so that those classes that are not wizards can effect these NPC's the same as wizards.

Wizards do incredible amounts of damage and can often times defeat an npc in one casting of a spell. (356k damage with crit)

The server is imbalanced. be aware of this. thier in no rush to make any consessions to the rest of the classes to this regard.
any petitions you send in frustation of this will summarily get the same results. (I don't run this server I have no control over it)
True most of the GM's don't have control over it. but they could contact those people that do rather than pointing the players to the forums which I doubt get read other than by the other server population which for the most part will probably do to the post what a few people will do to this post once it's submitted.

Flame away, fact is, I'm right.

mattmeck 07-25-2004 03:36 PM

Quote:

The server is imbalanced. be aware of this. thier in no rush to make any consessions to the rest of the classes to this regard.
any petitions you send in frustation of this will summarily get the same results. (I don't run this server I have no control over it)
I have personaly told you and many others in game and on the forums what the issue is.

When Scorp upgraded the version to alow people more people to play, it messed up the custom AC code he wrote. Scorp and others are looking for a fix but due to lots of overtime at work, vacations, and school starting back up soon there hasnt been a lot of time to find fixes.


So next time you feel the need to talk out your arse about stuff you have no clue about try to listen to what people say to you and get the information before spouting off.

mattmeck 07-25-2004 03:38 PM

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True most of the GM's don't have control over it. but they could contact those people that do rather than pointing the players to the forums which I doubt get read other than by the other server population which for the most part will probably do to the post what a few people will do to this post once it's submitted.
Scorp, myself and Anime check the forums DAILY, i check it several time a day.

Quote:

Flame away, fact is, I'm right.
There is not 1 piece of evidence to back up a single word that you stated, in fact the evidence shows you are 100% wrong, go look at the forums.

Melwin 07-25-2004 04:08 PM

Moved to appropriate forum.

If this gets out of hand, the pen is open.

Jedok 07-25-2004 04:12 PM

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They don't even have class balancing in EQLive (at least when I played). You made a whole post about wizards being to powerful, like its takes more then 2 days to get one to 70. And you should keep these things to yourself, its nothing new, everyone knows these things 2 days after playing on the server.

animepimp 07-25-2004 04:29 PM

The code is being worked on, all the classes you say got nerfed are all because of one single bug that is being worked on when people have time to work on it. The server has so much custom code on it that when people change stuff in the Emu code and it gets merged automatically when the server is updated to the next verison that it causes bugs not seen on other servers. The wizards being too powerful is another bug that we need to take care of, suddenly their spells do way more damage than they should. 350k is like 20 times more than any spell is designed to do and the spells that do that much are usually GM only spells so theres obviously a huge difference there. And I bet my level 130 Shadowknight can resist that spell and beat you easily anyway.

We check the forums constantly and actually listen to every post. I personally check the forums at least 5 times a day and if I see a new topic posted in my e-mail I look right away if I'm home. And I answer any posts asking questions and consider seriously any reasonable requests. I haven't been on much because my computer killed itself last week, but I help as much as I can and I know matt and scorp do the same. Scorp ahs been busy getting two kids ready for school and working, but he still reads all the posts and fidns time to work on the server. If you think that is not enough or jsut feel that we ignore your twinky ideas of giving everyone uber pets so that everyone can kill everything risk free then go ahead and leave. We don't care. Most people on our server like to be able to kill anthing they can find, but they'd rather earn it instead of watching a pet or spell nuke things.

jimbox114 07-25-2004 04:58 PM

I had alot more fun with that server before it was upgraded. I haven't played forever.

Xabob 07-25-2004 05:14 PM

Well this is just coming from me i am a lead-Gm but b4 i was a GM i took a monk from 1-130 in about 10 hours if that its really easy i don't really see why you are geting in a huf puf over this it still a fun server with or without everything being balened

Tajk 07-26-2004 07:10 AM

I like scorp server ALOT, i played my warrior to 130 in about 2 weeks. My wizard took about 3 days, and i like boxing my warrior, SK and my Wizard, gives good aa XP, so stop whining, they all wine about wizard overpower this, overpower that... know something? if its so ugly that they are good, switch server, they aint stopping ya

patmcrotch 07-26-2004 08:54 AM

Bitch about a free service?

patmcrotch 07-26-2004 08:54 AM

Bitch about a free service?

Zkhava 07-26-2004 09:46 AM

Move this Topic to Pen Melwin :D

aziraphale 07-27-2004 04:05 AM

Wow, I just can't believe you wasted that much time. When everyone is wielding 150+ damage weapons at low levels, it does become slightly harder to 'balance' the game. And come on, is there ever truly balance? This is a free service. If you don't like it, there are plenty of other servers to switch to. And you probably won't have as much fun.

Cisyouc 07-27-2004 05:43 AM

EQ wasn't really ever about gaining the max level in a week or a month anyway (Which used to be impossible =p), It was about exploring new places, meeting new people, questing, its a GAME, have fun. Sure, everyones GOAL is to get the maximum level, but not everyone is rushing to 65. Even if the wizards were overpowered on Scorp, I'd still play an Enchanter.

jimbox114 07-27-2004 08:00 AM

Only thing I really dislike about it now is pretty much every named mob on there kills you in 1 round now. Yea you are wielding weapons with massive damage, but you got mobs hitting for 9999 also.

mattmeck 07-27-2004 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbox114
Only thing I really dislike about it now is pretty much every named mob on there kills you in 1 round now. Yea you are wielding weapons with massive damage, but you got mobs hitting for 9999 also.

Yes its a big bug that is being looked into, what some people dont realize tho is RL > EQEmu. When there is a lot going on in RL there is less time to work on the server.


Now lets look at the good points of Scorp

Its the only server to NEVER delete characters when an upgrade was done, since the creation of the server.

It has a lot of functional quests.

Max LV is 130, more time to spend leveling ( with zones added to make leveling easy )

Almost all AA's are fuinctional.

Even with the AC / ATTK bugs you can still make it to LV 130 easy.

#scribe spells for 10Kpp

Epics ( way upgraded too I might add ) for 2Kpp

Extreamly stable server, can easly handle 50+ people IN ONE ZONE.

A lot of custom content.




And I know I am missing a LOT of stuff that has been added / changed / upgraded. There is a LOT of good points to the server, if you go looking for issues you can find issues on ANY server.

hypershadow66 07-27-2004 09:21 AM

are they going to upgrade when the new eqemu that works with new patch comes out?

mattmeck 07-27-2004 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hypershadow66
are they going to upgrade when the new eqemu that works with new patch comes out?

Always do, maby not that day, there is a lot of custom stuff that has to be done before the upgrade, and Scorp has to write a program to carry the characters over to the new version ( some of the time anyway ) So it may well be a few weeks before it happens.

animepimp 07-27-2004 02:43 PM

The named mobs hitting too hard is because of a bug with AC when we switched to DR6. Its being worked on, but for now AC no longer works as well as it should so everything is harder.

yoru 07-28-2004 06:03 AM

with all do respect to all those making good points about the server


i only have 1 thing to say to the ppl trying to thrash it without good cause


IF U DONT LIKE IT STAY THE **** OFF OF IT AND SHUT THE **** UP YOU ARE ONLY MAKING YOUR SELF OUT TO LOOK RETARDED!~

because a: they are workin on it as fast as they can
b: they are not goin to quit their jobs to sit in front of they're computer just to fix and code new all day for something they dont get paid for.


REMEMBER its just like the devs that code the emu. they are doin it for free and offering it for free.

just my 2cp

Tark 07-28-2004 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlockz
Globe of the Familiar which allows you to summon the Greater Familiar which allows Wizards to effect end game NPC's but....
you can only gain this by winning an event.
personally I think this item should be a purchasable item so that those classes that are not wizards can effect these NPC's the same as wizards.

I was planning on questing it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlockz
Wizards do incredible amounts of damage and can often times defeat an npc in one casting of a spell. (356k damage with crit)

Most people would complain if it was changed but I agree.

bloodgoth 07-28-2004 04:12 PM

I <3 Scorpius2k and I play as a monk. I don't regret being a monk, because it's not about power-gaming to me. In other words, I'm not out there to be the best.

alishabutl 07-29-2004 04:31 PM

I have been on this server for about 3 weeks now. I will say this, Thank You Scorpious for the time you have put into this project. I VERY much enjoy playing on this server.
For those complaining about wizards being overpowered...You have the ability just as i did to
A) Make a wizard also
B) Create a second account and make a wizard to help gear your melee characters
C) Most importantly...PLAY FOR FREE on a server that someone else is paying for and letting us play on...

enough said

Melwin 07-30-2004 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmeck
Its the only server to NEVER delete characters when an upgrade was done, since the creation of the server.

This seems like a good time to point out that WR has never deleted any characters in our good two years of existence, and never will, so it's not exactly the only server.

mattmeck 07-30-2004 08:56 AM

Sure ya did, the first time ya upgraded :shock:

Cause thats back when I was playing. :lol:

Melwin 07-30-2004 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmeck
Sure ya did, the first time ya upgraded :shock:

Cause thats back when I was playing. :lol:

We have never deleted any characters. If you managed to lose a character somehow, you're the only person to ever do that. I still have a character with a character ID of 163, and he's not even my oldest - the oldest was like 12, but due to loginbug we had to do recreates of characters in ages past.

Darkscythe 07-31-2004 03:43 PM

hey War u from Nh wat part im from Dover

Nokrudos 08-16-2004 03:30 PM

Whats the link for Scorpious2k?
 
I need a link for the website plz

Blakkjak 08-16-2004 05:06 PM

~
 
Scorp deleted chars on a upgrade because I had a 40ish beastlord when they only had Poair as a good higher lvl zone max lvl might of been 60 also not sure

mattmeck 08-16-2004 05:38 PM

Re: ~
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blakkjak
Scorp deleted chars on a upgrade because I had a 40ish beastlord when they only had Poair as a good higher lvl zone max lvl might of been 60 also not sure

a few people did loose characters, but scorp ether used a backup to remake the char or the GM's did it in game.

Venom 08-16-2004 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmeck
Sure ya did, the first time ya upgraded :shock:

Cause thats back when I was playing. :lol:


heh


The Scorps server by far is one of the best well put together servers that this emu has to offer... It gives players a chance to play a class without the tedious timing of having to level for a year.. without GM intervention like some servers do.

Every Server has problems, and will always have problems.. You guys remember some of the old problems live have had?

As far as wizzies doing damage.. yeah so? umm.. rogues dont do mass damage either?

My level 10 cleric.. dont do mass damage? with her epic? umm come on man.. the server is to have fun without the crap.. so dont bring it on here..

Some players like hard servers like WR and others.
Some players like server where you start out as god..
Then some players just like Scorps server...

We are all entitled to our opinons and im sure the Scorp development team is aware of the bugs, and problems.. but why post it here? The staff on scorps servers have always listened to me about bugs and problems.. and I can guarantee they are working on it.

sotonin 08-17-2004 01:19 AM

Why are you quoting Mattmeck? he was talking about WR...

oh wait, you always bring them up. forgot.

Venom 08-17-2004 02:18 AM

well, i just thought that was completely HILARIOUS HAHHHAHAHAHA


dont you have something to code? dont this get boring to you? i mean.. im just trying to save you alot of flaming posts .. that youll just get right back ..lol ..and i grow tired of playing who can be a bigger asshole.. but hey.. im still game if you are...

sotonin 08-17-2004 02:20 AM

easily amused i see.

Venom 08-17-2004 02:31 AM

not really, but whats so amusing i thought you were more witty than this.. guess im wrong.

its one thing to flame someone.. but if you can do it with a little more wit than braun it would be just a bit more interesting .. now since were jumping from post to post with this..

tell you what.. lets make a new thread. and well calll it..

"your an idiot post, and let me flame you thread" just to keep it all in one nice complete post.. lol


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