Tallon/Vallon Zek Server
 

I made toons on this server and was reading on forums that they added new mobs to various zones to make getting spells easier via quest. Also, these mobs were said to drop items to aid the up and coming players. Well, I stumbled across this mob in Timorous Deep, and killed him and I came to find out that he dropped decent items. I transfered a couple of these items to my pally. Well while playing my Pally someone asked me about on of these items and i told him it was off of one of the new mobs they implimented, and he offered me decent trades for it, therefore, i traded him. So i went back and farmed him again and got a few more items and traded them. Knowing that these mobs that were added were fairly new, and that from reading on the forums, looked like no one had ever completed the quest led me tho believe that i was the first on to discover this mob. Thinking I was the first to find it i farmed items from it before anyone else could discover him. Even when trading these items people were asking me if these items were off of the newly implemeted mobs, and asking me where were they. Of course I would not tell anyone, I was making money, and decent trades. Well come to find out after my accounts got banned, this mob was not one of the newly implemented mobs, even though i had never seen him before. Reason I post this is to warn everyone who plays or is thinking of playing on this server...be careful before you play here because I got banned for something I didnt even think to believe i was doing wrong. I thought it was somethign they implemented, because the forums said so. I mean he was dropping everything that the newly implemented mob were said to drop. All im saying is chose your GM's wisely because I just lost alot of my time into something that was not my fault, and i still feel as though im innocent.

Thanks.

Don't worry. Quite a few are aware of VTZek. :)

That server is so infested with cheaters that they automatically assume the innocent people are also cheating. It's a last resort thing that they've sadly stooped to. Essentially, banning everyone is a ghetto band aid for when you don't have any real solutions. Play on a quality server that knows their ass from their elbow. I'd suggest one that's been around for a while.. Shards of Dalaya and PEQ Grand Creation. :)

Thank you Richard I will look into those servers....makes me feel better that im not the only one who had to deal with this horrible leadership on this server.

You'll have to wait a few months for the next decent PvP server~ several are in development.

your story sounds like its missing alot , and very hard to belive, mabye its just me

Phric, im the VZTZ that banned your accounts. let me explain a few things. both on here and in game while we had our lil chat you claimed that you learned of these new mobs and their loot by reading the info on our site (www.pwnedemu.com), however that thread you have claimed to read states exactly which NPC and the zone in which it can be located. not to mention the thread describes the mobs as "custom 1 group encounters", and you never questioned being able to kill the mob alone?

Also, the custom mob you thought you found is clearly listed on allakhazam with its loot, just type in Ugrak. when u killed Ugrak and saw what you were looting you should have reported it, or at the very least not killed the mob enough times to accumulate over 45 pieces of gear and then start trading that gear out to over various members of the community and causing a negative effect to our economy.

and lastly, if you wanted to farther discuss the situation you should have messaged me or another staff member on our website. trying to slander our server and/or staff because you were caught and punished for it is hardly a respectable way to handle the situation.

-Sirken
VZ/TZ Staff

also Richardo, please leave whatever personal issues you have with our staff members at the door.

the server is not infested with cheaters (albeit I'm sure there are a few that we haven't caught.. yet), as soon as a cheater is caught, appropriate action is taken. we have a lively staff that provides in game help 40-60 hours a week, every week. as well as an active Dev team pumping out content, and preparing for Velious. not to mention we are also currently hosting the class BotB events which have been a lot of fun so far. so before you go off talking badly about VZ/TZ, why don't you try logging in once in awhile? granted we have a "colorful" community, the amount of cheating is at a minimum.

- Sirken
VZ/TZ Staff

I love how Richardo, an ex-dev of our server and current dev of Bane of Life (our unreleased competition) jumps at every chance to sling shit at our server. Most of the time its related to how much hacking or exploiting goes on. I think any dev on an ACTIVE server would agree that MQ and bug exploitation does happen and its a constant battle to keep it in check.

It is very easy to keep a server hack/exploit free if you just never release it at all...

Also...

Didn't you get banned from these forums for trying to steal legends status?

Nice, Bane of Life has a staff member that "aquired" Rogean's info and used it to give Bane of Life "Legends" status on the server select screen.

I hope all the players of Bane of Life understand that one of your server operators is a hacking piece of shit, willing to use other peoples accounts / passwords to promote their server in any way possible.

While our players might be "colorful," you won't see this type of behavior coming from the VZ/TZ server ops.

If Bane of Life has any self respect they will remove Richardo from their staff immediately.

Hahaha, so embarrassing.

http://forums.baneoflife.com/index.php?topic=280.0

Hey Yeorwned how about a public apology for slamming our server when it was clearly the login server that was compromised and not us?

Yeah I don't see it happening either, you piece of shit. Keep on accusing us and trying to make us look bad. Bottom line is we run one of the two most active EQEMU servers that you wish you could be a part of. Oh, and with staff members like Richardo your server will go nowhere, fast. We already kicked him off our staff, so basically we consider him "sloppy seconds" to any other server ops that are gullible enough to have him.

VZTZ owns, you got caught farming raid gear that was accidently added to a regular mob.

Actually, i'm pretty sure (80-95% sure) that Richardo moved on to image/devn00bs GuildWars server as a quest dev there, or he may be reviving his Dark Horizons server. I'm almost positive that the "passwords" he obtained were from Stylez (who also was banned from several projects) who had got them from Lucid Visions, who was hacking EQEmu in the first place to compromise the accounts. So yeah, he unintentionally screwed you over. But he's not part of Bane of Life anymore, at least that is my understanding. And no, we didn't remove him because of this post.

http://forums.baneoflife.com/index.p...n=profile;u=37

As for Yeorwned posting that message on the Bane of Life forums? Take it up with him. I'm not responsible for any of his ramblings, nor should I be.

Man, why the hell do I join a bunch of projects that put me in a ton of drama. :/

Sheer, unadulterated luck Secrets =D

From what I gather, you are spiteful towards our server because you were shown the door for being corrupt/retarded.

To correct what you've written: VZ/TZ has been around for some time, has maintained one of the highest (if not the highest) server populations, has one of the most active forum communities, and has the most legit/active staff you'll find anywhere. I work in the game industry and staff VZ/TZ in my free time simply because I want to, so you can understand why it sort of chaps my ass when someone attempts to slander our dedication and hard work.

I don't know who is running "Bane of Life". I just went to their forums and saw several people who had been banned from our server (one person in particular who took it as far as spamming trojan links on the original Tallon Zek forum). I also see posts from their administrator where they slander our server. You will never see that kind of thing out of us on our forums. That is not something we need to do, as our reputation and actions speak for themselves.

Good luck Richardo!

OP is such a loser. 99% of the time you know if something is right or not. If it's questionable you report it, and find out. It's what I do anyhow. If you were getting the same quality of loot that comes from the custom mobs, then you should have known better.

I am the only operator at this point and have yet to "hack" anything. What purpose do you really think was accomplished by this feat anyway? Richardo was hosting his own locked server with a generic database to simply play a joke, which I do not think he meant any harm by.

Way to take a quote out of context. That quote is referring to the heavy use of utilities such as MacroQuest and the carefree attitude from the staff on the VTZ forums. For example, the last time I visited, the first post I observed was a screenshot of mistyping cheats in public chat with nothing more than a bunch of laughs from the other players and moderators.

If you want to go down this road, I'd suggest you pick up on the staff history and where exactly everyone came from before you continue your blind flamefest.

I didn't simply download a PEQ database and launch a server with a known EverQuest server name when no other PvP servers we're available so I am not fortunate enough to simply launch a generic server. Thanks for your comments. :)

you were essentially exploiting, if you found something that easy to farm that was helping you acquire great trades with little effort.

the staff for TZ/VZ is top notch, they are not unreasonable people. you broke the rules by continuing to abuse something that shouldn't have been there. you can probably get unbanned by communicating with someone there.

Hey I don't know who any of you EMU dudes are, but fuck you.

We like VZ/TZ.

VZ/TZ is not only the best PVP Server....
It's got a rockhard anti hacking stance.
It's cut all the crap out from later expansions past velious.
It's got the most active community out of any server.
I don't think there is a pvp server out on emu that has ran as long as vz/tz.
I'm also pretty sure VZ/TZ is the top dawg of emu pops... We just broke 300 last night and even PEQ experienced a pop. jump as a result of the influx of new/old players from our server wipe.

haha oh man

That guy is such a kidder!

Thanks, High five!

The birth of /faceplant. The kid screenshotted hacking I remember as a gigantic newb in the newbiest guild on the server, not really a big deal, cheating isn't widespread as you'd think, screenshots of people bumbling a hack command in public chat is pure gold comedy and hardly a regularity. Would you prefer if everyone was shocked and screamed obscenities in hatred at said hacker, or laughed him off as a newbie?

Wha...Wait, what? Should of told your buddy Richardo!

No, thank YOU.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play on the generic PEQ database pvp server, level up in tutorial, get flagged for PoE and pwn newbs with my AA's.

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Smedy just owned this thread.

Until I release my new DvD (Developer versus Developer) server, there won't be a central place for discussions like this.

In all seriousness though, the flaming needs to stop now and if it continues, account bans for breaking the forum rules will happen.

I guess I need to start reading every server thread, otherwise I would have stopped this before it got this far.

As for the OP, it sounds like that is definitely something OK to post about here if they feel there is a real concern with server administration, and a reply from the server team is fine as long as it is just to clarify the truth and not starting a flame of any sorts.

Most of the posters in this thread were way out of line. Putting down other servers is not allowed. That doesn't mean that issues with servers can't be discussed, but blatant flaming is clearly against the rules here.

As far as quoting other forum posts here, IMO that is completely irrelevant to these forums. We have no control over what is said/done on other servers or their sites. So, asking for apologies here for stuff said elsewhere is a bit pointless.

Me and a few others recently stopped playing on VZ/TZ aswell due to all the hackers and childish people.
I cant wait for another pvp server that isnt run by the kids that play in it. For now though I am very much enjoying the PEQ server, even though its not PVP.

I actually reported a few bugged mobs and people exploiting these mobs on a few occasions and they were still there when i left, still being exploited and likely still there now. I agree with the topic poster and beleive everything he said. I wasted time on that server too.

Not sure where you got the information that he is working on GuildWars lol, not the case.

read what u all wrote? every server is gonna have hackers. vz tz has a strong staff. they stoped all the hacking as they found it. so really dont matter what server u play on, or game for the matter. u will have hackers. and as for this post. who ever started it about the loot off them mobs didnt read vz tz boards. would have knowen stuff he was doing was out of hand. instead he comes here and start all this childish BS that u all feed off.

heres your solution. delete post and go fucking smoke a fat one and deal with it. u got free eq. and all hands down vz tz ONLY pvp server UP atm so stop moaning.


kinda like that song by M.C. , dont go away mad JUST GO AWAY.

So we are overzealous with removing players who exploit and hack....but we never remove people who exploit and hack....gotcha.

Hot Potato imo.

The amount of cheaters in this community lately is ridiculous.. I hope they all get banned from every server that is clear about the rules NO MQ / MQ2....

Hope that you can get that technology perfected.. I would love to put a stop to them on my end..

King

Even posts like this is really just going to further the drama, which needs to stop now as I said earlier. This is fairly borderline, but I am giving fair warning! I know it isn't exactly flaming, but it is just pushing the argument again.

I would lock this thread, but I personally believe that locking does not solve issues, it just delays them.

Looks like sarcasm to me, seems only fair for him to be able to defend himself.

Yes, it was sarcasm, but sarcasm is rarely meant to be taken as a nice comment :P

I fully agree that they have every right to defend their server and I don't mind that at all as long as it is done in a reasonable manor.

I think the original post was handled just fine here:
That is a respectable response and one of the only ones in this entire thread. It clearly explains the situation and explains why the OP was banned. It does not flame anyone in the least and simply sticks to the facts. That is the type of response I expect to see when an admin is defending their server.

Richardo was obviously way out of line and is treading on thin ice considering his primary account is already banned for other reasons. Whether his initial ban was warranted or not is hard to say for sure, but making posts like that isn't helping his case at all. At this point I am doubting his old account will ever get unbanned and if this type of activity continues, he will probably be banned on this account as well. Nothing against you personally, Richardo, but you are digging a hole for yourself by acting that way.

The reason I used VallonTallonZek's post as an example is because the post he quoted and his reply to that post didn't really make sense and could definitely be taken wrong. His response was meant as a reply to the entire thread, not just the post he quoted. Either way, I think it could have been said in a more respectful way or at least without the sarcasm.

In summary; if a flame post is made, it is NOT ok to keep the flames going just because someone else started it. If someone is flaming, feel free to report them directly to me and I will take care of it. And if we ask the flaming to stop, that doesn't mean it is still ok to keep pushing further drama, even slightly. Discussion is fine, but drama is not.

Whatever works for you Trevius, you da man.

There is nothing wrong with trying to keep the peace. I think that comes with the job of being on the team here. If you think I am wrong about something, feel free to discuss it either openly, in a PM to me, or privately to one of the other team members. I am always open for discussion as long as it is a reasonable one.

The moderated user will just sit and nod.

I actually would have never read a single post in this thread but I keep getting PMs on IRC telling me that I was being flamed so like Image said, only stating the facts.

Yea Yeormom, the 4th post down was bruuuttalllll :-D .

Well, by the definition, that phrase is future tense.

For my English experts out there, next != current.