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Old 01-07-2006, 06:56 PM
wraithlord98
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I've stated in several posts elsewhere - as well as in the chat rooms.. last time I was involved in this project - it was on release 0.2.0 or something or other? The current release is 0.6.3? Even then I was still just trying to learn.. I'm still trying to learn.. And that was the whole point - I got slammed dunked for asking questions trying to learn - because I couldn't find the answers in the coveted wiki and the forums even after searching for hours on end because of the mess they're in.. You say fix them.. I say sure - all's fine and well with that - but I can't fix what I don't know is broke.. I now know some of the things that are broke by going through it - but since a lot of it is all jumbled in one giant mess - was easier to just sort it out to another website for the time being.

Folks say rip the code apart - learn that way.. well I can't sit there and off the top of my head say I need to learn one particular thing or another without first seeing what the overall thing involves.. it'd be like baking a cake without knowing the ingrediants.. it goes much smoother seeing what it is that you need - then you gather the ingrediants and combine them so you get the desired results. Coding is way above my head - sure.. but I'm willing to try and learn.. give me a clue and point me in the right direction - that's all I've asked. I've never expected anything to just be handed to me.

And to answer the questions as to why packet sniffing and pulling the content from live over - easy enough.. I said I'd like to learn - not put myself through hell making thousands upon thousands of entries needed to populate the zones to a point where they were playable and entertaining. I've seen the data structure of the Emu.. I've worked with it.. By no means do I understand all of it. I'd like to - and that takes time. I just figured it would be a lot easier pulling content from live and porting it to the dbase (easier said than done).

I'd just like to say for the record - I never intended for this to turn into World War 3.. things were said on both sides that shouldn't have been said.. tempers flaired and we let it get the best of us.. but damn it - you want my help - tell me how I could best help you out.. if sorting through the forums is how I can best help - then just tell me. Don't just criticize me for not contributing... there's more than 1 way to make contributions even if it doesn't directly involve coding.

As for suggestions? I'd suggest you take all the old posts and archive them so that the relevant information can be reposted, stickied, organized into the wiki or whatever it is you think would be the best way to organize it - which is why we chose a new website.. clean slate.. not cluttered to hell.. makes it way easier to organize. You can criticize me all you like about choosing to host it on a new website - but it's been highly effective.. and if you don't believe me about our intentions to get it back into the wiki - ask Nicholas (as much as you hate the hell out of him right now); those were our intentions from the start. As to the wiki getting screwed with like it did - I had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Short of it is this.. believe what you like.. criticize all you want.. I did what I did for a reason. I had good intentions - I don't care what you choose to believe - but right now I got a bitter taste in my mouth from everything and I'm not sure exactly what it is I'm going to do.

Last edited by wraithlord98; 01-08-2006 at 03:01 AM..
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