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Old 05-20-2009, 04:04 PM
drakelord
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Originally Posted by loic View Post
Lead? *double checks his name and group* hmmm I think the only "Leads" are the people with colored names... That aside

Personally I wouldnt use it or any other system for patching an EQ Client,having googled since reading this and seeing several servers being shut down by SOE for patching I wouldnt take the chance personally.

I also am not too sure how much faith I would put into something that is totally dependant on someone elses abbility to host it and their intrest in continuing to do so, Given recent examples such as the loginserver issues of the inherent danger in putting all eggs in one basket, its not something i would use, it treds too far into the realm of the legal grey area for my tastes and too far into precisly the same situation that the login server issues present of late.

Personally I see no reason for a "universal" patching system anyway since most people dont use custom content for their servers, that means all that would be done is the eqhost.txt file changes which is both simple and the eqemu.devnoob.com site has their loginserver list page do that automaticly via a manual download.

I also dont really see how this would be a unifying project, about the only thing that would unite the private loginservers as well as the public in a meaningfull way is to have something that presents a list of ALL loginservers available both private and the official one and so forth.

In reguards to this particular project, while a patcher seems like a really good Idea it being centralized like this seems like a huge security risk, lets say someone starts using it to distribute backpatches and instead of just that server getting taken out by a C&D They also come after the host and slap them with a C&D And then EQEmu as a whole because the community devs and admins condoned and gave their ok and eqemu gets slapped with a C&D as well.

Bare in mind here these are just my two cp and such but patching the client is walking on thin ice imo legally speaking other servers have been shut down for precisly that. Plus the dangers of the host getting tired of doing the hosting and maintanance on the "database" and such along with the obvious trust issues associated with the players connecting to a third party whom may or may not be trust worthy and downloading files through that party as well I dunno but count me outa that.
The reason previous servers have been shut down for patchers is because they were patching files they weren't supposed to be. WR as an example was patching eqgame.exe, which is a big no no.

And you are right, for any server that doesn't use custom files, this isn't needed. But like I said, its for individuals who play on custom servers.

And as for the "hosting" issue, hosting can easily be transferred to EQEmu or whoever else if they decided they wanted to take up the helm. It only requires a one line change in the source code. It is not "totally dependent" on me. EQEmu would be safe as long as it responded to takedown notices for servers hosting backpatches and such. Its just like how Google hosts torrent files willingly and removes them when companies ask them to.

And finally, the "database" is just a text file with the servers and their listing. There isn't any real "maintenance" to that, :/
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