[dreamseer]

OMG that must have been the only combination I didn't try..
and that link is a goldmine for me thanks Derision..

is there any way to put a line break in like it does when you give an npc a second name it appears on a second line under their their name in brackets like
Soulbinder Grunson
(Soulbinder)

        	$client->SetAATitle("Countess");
        	$client->SetTitleSuffix("the Cruel");
        	$client->ChangeLastName("Butcher of Qeynos")

hoping to make names like
Countess playername the Cruel
Butcher of Qeynos

but it came out as
"Countess playername Butcher of Qeynos the Cruel"

all on one line.

your help has been invaluable so far and if it always stays on one line I can work around it.