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Old 06-06-2004, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tiraid
The real problem with the US is the people who believe the terrorists. check out english.aljazeera.net for uncensored news. This is so wrong... I'm at a loss for words. Aljazeera is sympathetic toward our enemies.
the reporters for al-Jazeera aren't terrorists. they're everday people like you and me making a living doing what they love best. i'm sure some employees of the news agency are sympathetic toward terrorists because of similar religious backgrounds, morals of their culture, or family origins in those areas, but that doesn't mean that they all are. you made a huge, biased generalization there.

example: david bloom wasn't a soldier even though he was crossing iraq with them. and i don't exactly like hearing about the death of a soldier, but that doesn't mean that i agree with what they're doing.

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But it all goes back to people believing what they want to believe. People who read and agree with Aljazeera are people who hate America and like to see it degraded.
there's nothing to agree with about al-Jazeera. they provide news stories, not take political sides. i do read al-Jazeera when i want accurate, up-to-date news from the Middle East. you certainly never hear about how many teenagers are shot in palestine by israelis because they threw rocks at them on american news channels. wrong again when you say people who rely on al-Jazeera for news in the Middle East hate America and like to see it degraded. you obviously haven't ever looked into their news because they don't degrade america in any way.

me personally, i don't like the US government. it's always either republican or democrat and rich brown-nosing people who get elected. that's the biggest joke. it's not good to play games with something as delicate as a country with approximately 293 million people in it.

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These people believe nothing that America does is right. They want to give the sovereignty away to the United Nations, so they can make all the decisions, because the United Nations can do no wrong, of course.
the united nations is a good idea. it's always better to have input from more than one source if you're making a decision that could effect the whole global population. the US government has already displayed it is incapable of making good decisions on its own more than once (similar to the way you're making decisions). most recently, the iraq war: a lot of countries disagreed with it. they were ignored and the war started anyway. so, you have radicals through the world that already have a problem with the US because they're generalizing that everyone is a christian that hates them and now its own allies are upset. not a good idea.

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I don't understand why so many people in the US believe that everything we do is wrong and everything everyone else does is right. Where did this self-hatred come from? I perfer terrorists over these people. At least terrorists don't have a vote. If we could just be rid of all of our enemies within our borders, our fellow citizens who hate us, then terrorists could have no power over us. But our internal arguing over whether it is even ethical for us to protect ourselves gets in the way of our even being effective.
i don't understand why you're saying this. there isn't self-hatred because people make decisions which disagree with what the US government is doing.

you prefer terrorists over protestors with signs? head to iraq, find a group of radicals (like the ones who decapitated Nick Berg-video can be found on the internet), and see how long you're alive.

you shouldn't be so quick to shut out people who disagree. their story deserves recognition. people who protested the war in iraq weren't against protecting themselves and their country. they just didn't want it to turn into a war. the truth is, people like you are more like enemies to the country because you are apparently a warmongerer from the statements you've made.

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Our enemies within this country are more powerful then our enemies without.
yes they are more powerful. they're the rich people running the government that are incapable of making good decisions everytime they are forced to make one for a vote.

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Again, this is so wrong, I don't know where to start. Its like you want to punish woman for wanting equal rights. A radical, fringe group of women fought for their right to be equal with men in the military. Most women do not agree with them. Most men do not agree with them. To say that woman should be drafted because a very few extreemists want them to be is ludicrous. This is the tail wagging the dog.
i don't agree about anything having to do with the draft but if the US government brought it back, it would have to include women now. i didn't make the decision to include women, the government did--so be upset with them. i'm 17 years old and i definitely wouldn't want to go if they started the draft and i dont think other women with dependents should even be considered (though they would but be very low on the list)

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It really is too bad that mainstream America is so quite and lets small groups of radicals have so much influence over them. It comes back to this, if drafting women is wrong, then it is wrong, even though someone may be offended.
you've got that reversed. those small groups of "radicals" are almost always ignored.

i'm not defending the fact that the draft is in consideration again or that women are included. but i took an unbiased look at it, unlike you and Rabaril. it's too bad you get so upset over people who don't agree with everything you believe is right. shows how much you actually read into my previous post.

it's good to know you're going to go through life believing everything that's shoveled into your mouth instead of finding the truth for yourself.
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