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		I've had Debian up for a few months now, but after a power outage, I can't get Debian up and running. It crashes 9 out of 10 times before getting to the Login then Desktop, but even if I make it that far, it crashes the second I try to use the internet, either web browser or starting EQ Server. The PC turning off instantly, no warning message, just instant off.  
 
So, I have a list of Kernel to select during boot up, basically the original that only supports 1 gig ram, and the updated kernel to run over 1 gig ram. The old kernel with 1 gig ram boots up perfectly, and runs the eqemu server too just fine.  
 
I have 2x2Gig Ram in that I want to use, so I thought maybe bad kernel, so I tried to uninstall/reinstall the kernel with these commands after su - root: 
 
dpkg -P kernel-image-2.6-k7 
apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 
 
which appeared to be successful, but when rebooting, and choosing that 2.6-7k kernel that I hopefully reinstalled, it still crashes still.  
 
I've tried google searching and haven't found any answers to this problem. Can anyone help please? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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		Here's what I'd do; 
I would suspect faulty hardware as the first thing, so I'd have to somehow check it. 
-A full, all sector scandisk (bootup might have overlooked something a full scan will not). 
-Memory since you have 2x ram chips, put one on, then switch to the other, see of problem goes away. 
-Video card, try another one (maybe you got an old one laying around?) 
 if you still haven't found anything, pull out/disable all possible hardware (LAn, Modem, etc. I've seen a faulty modem create problems like this. If problem goes away, add hardware back one at a time, tell you se the problem again. 
Usually I snagged the problem by then. 
I suspect you might have bad memory either video or ram, but could be any of the cache. 
You can run one gig with the 2 gig kernel, it should be ok for testing 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Figured those would be the steps. Was hoping for a simple reinstall kernel would fix it. My old kernel works, which makes me suspect its not hardware, unless its the RAM since the new kernel uses more than 1 gig ram.  
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		My newest Mandriva came with a memory check utility - pre-install. I guess memory is a big issue with Linux, since it will use all you give it. 
You could probably download the Mandriva CD and just use it for memory check; I found numerous problems with wrong or bad memory on mine. (I always by the cheapest memory, and you knwo the rest). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Ya, from reading your first post, I suspected a possible memory issue as well.  Power hits on a PC are never a good thing, and on Linux they are even worse lol.  Did you remove the kernel properly before you reinstalled it?  Is that what the "dpkg -P kernel-image-2.6-k7" command is?  I normally just use "apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6-k7" or some very similar command to automatically remove everything. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Yup, I tried the apt-get command too to remove it. Then reinstalled, but still problem. I'll work with the memory first and let ya know if I find out what it was. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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