Rudeness

DeletedUser · #1 06-22-2003, 06:17 PM

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From: FightersChoice
To: Hogie
Posted: 06-22-2003 03:36 PM
Subject: .....
For Some reason I hate you, CAN YOU ***ING BLAME ME IF I HAVE QUESTIONS?!!!?! You big ass shitter think you are the best so u lock all of my threads i want u to die, Oh and I have have 9 comps with 7 s/ns on each so it will take to a while to ban all of them as i know you will because you are that kind of cunt

Now, this user came from Aol proxies EVERY time... Here are some examples of his addresses:

205.188.208.169
152.163.252.226
205.188.209.82
205.188.208.172
205.188.208.102

How serious should I take an AOL luser? I mean, he can't even use a real internet provider, and he wants to start up his own server? His IQ isnt as high as Forrest Gumps... cause he's not running a Mac...

daeken_bb · #2 06-22-2003, 06:19 PM

all i can say is "HAHAHAHAHAHA"

DeletedUser · #3 06-22-2003, 06:23 PM

Oh, and I forgot, he posted all support questions in the WRONG AREA. Where it is clearly marked as "DO NOT POST SUPPORT QUESTIONS!" as a sticky at the top of the forum!

Things as simple as installing the system, and would ask again even after the readme was pointed out, and he would also post 3 - 4 times in 10 minutes because nobody would answer him.

Talon0202 · #4 06-22-2003, 06:57 PM

Hey boss....was just wondering, is there any kinda rough eta on patcher coming back up? If there isn't one or you do not want to answer or i shouldnt have asked here....feel free to delete this message and sorry for bothering you. If not....well, an eta would rock

Thanks

themanslayer · #5 06-22-2003, 09:05 PM

hey hogie, you should find the guy and jay and silent bob him hahahaha... lemme know ill help :twisted:

Aspirax · #6 06-23-2003, 01:07 AM

I think it's unprofessional to repost something like that on the front page. It makes you look like you have a 'holier-than-thou' attitude.

It's all about profesionalism, and that's how people perceive your project.

hogosha · #7 06-23-2003, 01:08 AM

I agree with him being a moron about using AOL as a service provider. Next, what a moron for all the 7th grade words. I talked like that back in uh...... yeah 6th or 7th grade. Big Shitter? I got bigger crap on deck that could choke a donkey. lol

Aspirax · #8 06-23-2003, 01:11 AM

"I got bigger crap on deck that could choke a donkey. lol"

Heh, so you've upgraded to a 9th grade level?

DeletedUser · #9 06-23-2003, 01:41 AM

Aspirax: If you dont like it, you can leave. Im tired of people like him sending me private messages like that. Would you rather me just drop the project? And you guys wonder why the devs dont go out of their way to help people with basic questions when they wont even help themselves.

Aspirax · #10 06-23-2003, 01:47 AM

Holy crap. "If you don't like it you can just leave."

My God. How old are you? Start acting like a project lead and not a snotty teen-ager.

The best rule about private messages:
If you don't like them ignore them.

It goes hand in hand with "you can just leave".

When you are a public figure, heading a project like this you can expect annoying people. Deal with them.

Elrach · #11 06-23-2003, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspirax

Holy crap. "If you don't like it you can just leave."

My God. How old are you? Start acting like a project lead and not a snotty teen-ager.

The best rule about private messages:
If you don't like them ignore them.

It goes hand in hand with "you can just leave".

When you are a public figure, heading a project like this you can expect annoying people. Deal with them.

I have to side with Aspirax here. Putting up a post like this in a public forum for the sole purpose of trying to humiliate someone, no matter how much he deserves it, appears childish at the best.

Like in everything else, there are always bad apples to deal with. Can't please everyone. That's what a free world is all about.

And don't start playing that "I'll drop the project if I'm not happy card" all the time. Grow up man, show you're a better person and just let it slip by quietly.

Trumpcard · #12 06-23-2003, 03:00 AM

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I think it's unprofessional to repost something like that on the front page. It makes you look like you have a 'holier-than-thou' attitude.

Asp: This isn't a professional project. Why should it be treated as one? This is a freely available project that the devs, and a host of other people donate their time, and some like Hogie, donate ALOT of money too. If you were paying for it, you would have some right to complain as to the content of what goes into the forums by the admins. You've been around for awhile, but what makes you think we should have to just take anything thats thrown at us?

As it stands, I think it's Hogie's personal right to repost hate mail sent to him. Ton's of other sites projects do it, some even have special forums devoted just to hate mail. We are supposed to just endure personal attacks, hate mail, name calling, just because we decided we want to help work on this project? Thats horses**t..

You would be amazed at the number of hateful PM's I have, and IM's because I decided to post that address, from people who EXPECT us to jump at their beck and call. Frankly, I'm sick of it too....

One guy posted hate mail on the forums because I didnt drop Valentines day dinner with my fiance and help him set up a server when he wouldnt read instruction 1.

We're aholes for pointing out to everyone that we won't tolerate that kind of childishness ?

As far as Hogies comment about giving up on the project, go ahead and criticize the one person who bled for this project and spent more time than anyone else holding it together. You guys have gotten a successful EQ emulator out of this and have not had to pay one single dime, and youre mad because he just annoyed by some hate mail and posted it ??

Edgar1898 · #13 06-23-2003, 03:10 AM

Amen Brother TC

Aspirax · #14 06-23-2003, 03:13 AM

I've run and currently run free services for years. Going on 9 or 10.

I always treat people with respect and profesionalism. Sure, I'm not saying there aren't some 13 year old punks who get under my skin. But I've learned over the years that there is one thing that gets under people's skin more than anything.

When someone is mad at you, and sends/posts something rude, obnoxious, replying in a polite, professional manner pisses them off. They want to egg you on. They want you to get bent out of shape. Even when it does, never let it show. *That* is the best way to fight back.

I'll expect that you guys might figure this out one day.

However, I don't think because you work on this project, throw money and time at it, gives you a green light to be a dick to people.

Going around threatening to close the project, or saying "I've put money into this" is a valid response. No one is making you. You chose to do it. Your decision. Not mine. If you choose to spend your money on something else, that's (again) your decision.

However, I am a proponent of being somewhat polite even under attack. I don't think that asking a project lead to not run around acting like a spoiled a brat is a big deal.

I love coming to the page and checking for updates. I do it all the time, and I don't even play EQ, I'm interested in the project and advancements. However, when I log on and I see posts like today's (and I've seen many) I get a sour taste in my mouth and think, "Who are these people, that they are so rightous?"

Trumpcard · #15 06-23-2003, 03:21 AM

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However, I don't think because you work on this project, throw money and time at it, gives you a green light to be a dick to people.

But apparently, by your line of reasoning, registering for a free account and getting access to post on these forums gives them the right to be dicks to us?

Maybe Hogie should draft up an automated reponse.

'Thank you for your insults and criticism. I will share your humilation of my mother with the rest of the team, and we look forward to whatever future deflamations of our characters that you care to share.'

This is real life brother.. Sometimes we're nice people, sometimes we're not, to expect someone to be nice and polite and to turn the other cheek ALL the time is probably an unrealistic expectation.

You have your right to your opinion, and I respect that, but I don't agree at all

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However, I am a proponent of being somewhat polite even under attack. I don't think that asking a project lead to not run around acting like a spoiled a brat is a big deal.

For someone that just commented on always being professional and polite when you are insulted, that seems to be a bit of an acinine remark don't you think? You say that one should always be polite, then call him a spoiled brat all in the same line. Thats is perhaps the FASTEST case of doublespeak I've ever seen.