Winters Roar down indefinitely

[animekenji]

Winters Roar will apparently not be playable for the foreseeable future due to a Cease a Desist Order issued against them by Sony. The website is gone and the login server is unreachable.

http:\\67.15.24.48\

It's too bad. WR was much more fun than Sony's version. :-(

I hope they'll be back online soon.

[Hellefire]

Hm, that sucks. If anyone gets more info on this or finds out how I can help WR, please post here.

Hellefire

[land.admiral]

tis a sad sad day

[Windcatcher]

The obvious solution is a total replacement client--models (player and mob), zones, weapons, icons, the whole nine yards. IMHO the hardest part of it is the content, not the code. There is an OpenEQ section about *coding* a client, but it might be a good idea to set up a section where people can organize calls for replacement content and post submissions:

- spell icons
- item icons
- player models
- creature (monster) models
- zones (though the OpenZone section is good for this)

I'm not surprised they shut WR down, if nothing else because WR, with 300+ players, was actually beginning to compete against live on a non-trivial level. We've had a day to lament it's loss (well, you have; I've never seen WR), but in loss there is also opportunity: I've lost count of the number of people in the past couple of months who have expressed to me a desire to create original content beyond zones. This would be an exellent time to organize a total (and I *do* mean total) divorce from the live client. With a 100% home-grown client that uses not a single byte of SOE's content, a post-WR server could tell them to pound sand (as well as branch out into game systems beyond EQ's, which IMHO is like D&D For Dummies).

[KhaN]

So true WC ...

Im very Sorry for Wiz and its staff, but it had to happen one day ...

[Traul]

Originally Posted by Windcatcher

The obvious solution is a total replacement client--models (player and mob), zones, weapons, icons, the whole nine yards. IMHO the hardest part of it is the content, not the code. There is an OpenEQ section about *coding* a client, but it might be a good idea to set up a section where people can organize calls for replacement content and post submissions:

- spell icons
- item icons
- player models
- creature (monster) models
- zones (though the OpenZone section is good for this)

I'm not surprised they shut WR down, if nothing else because WR, with 300+ players, was actually beginning to compete against live on a non-trivial level. We've had a day to lament it's loss (well, you have; I've never seen WR), but in loss there is also opportunity: I've lost count of the number of people in the past couple of months who have expressed to me a desire to create original content beyond zones. This would be an exellent time to organize a total (and I *do* mean total) divorce from the live client. With a 100% home-grown client that uses not a single byte of SOE's content, a post-WR server could tell them to pound sand (as well as branch out into game systems beyond EQ's, which IMHO is like D&D For Dummies).

Sounds like that's the plan. When Wiz shutdown the server he announced the WR dev team is working on a complete stand-alone game called Dawntide, with a new client and everything.

[solid11]

Please don't get pissed at this because I'm just saying how I feel and it's just an opinion.

I feel it's BS how insecure Sony is feeling with their UBER mult-billion dollar company against one little independant server. I'm going off rumor, but if it is about the name of the site as a problem, then I say change the name just to stick it in their face. Again just a humble opinion.

Also, I like WC's enthusiasm for a totally custom content server, BUT what drew me to this site is because it is "EQ"Emu. I love that I can play and help create live like content without putting up with Sony's BS. To be totally honest I would have never come to this site if it wasn't about EQ, and I am willing to bet 99.9% of everyone else would say the same thing.

A spin off of custom content from this site would be awesome because we all like to play/create new things from time to time, but I hope there will be an equal divide between EQ and custom, not a total abandonment of either.

[Shazzel]

If you read up on "Dawntide" it is sounding alot like EQ with their own code , zone , races , class's etc.

They need to get a pre-alpha website/forums up.

[steihl]

Originally Posted by Shazzel

If you read up on "Dawntide" it is sounding alot like EQ with their own code , zone , races , class's etc.

They need to get a pre-alpha website/forums up.

They're working on it. Wiz said there should be a rough palyable alpha within a month or so. The game was in the works for a while, they already have an engine, because they expected something like this would eventually happen. =P

[Sarepean]

Very smart. =) I'll probably jump on the bandwagon when they release it.

Way to stick it to Sony, guys! Let them know that we're not going to take their crap and that a bunch of people who like Everquest are going to break away from "flattering" Sony by attempting to mimic their server and make their own game that will probably have half the bugs and downtime.

Not to mention that it'll be a good thing for everyone that they no longer have to go on Sony's patching schedule.

[Woodlife Treestrider]

Well, that is quite possibly the most disturbing thing I have read in month's.... Not 3 days ago, I sent a PM to WindCatcher offering to lend a hand to a "server" a few of my friends and I are making. The difference is, I told him we were making custom everything. Custom weapons, npcs, zones, you name it. We eventually will change to a custom DB cause the current one is getting to be pointless. WindCatcher can vouch for the validity of the PM, infact I have an unread PM in my box, most likely from WC. Seeing this topic, I could not wait to post a reply.

Elements of Norrath was first planned to be a server with a lot of custom content, by EQEmu standards atleast. But, ever since the addition of our modeler, Percy, a great many doors have been opened to the idea of just making a new game in itself. Here is an example of how good Percy is. Kerosh showed him the zones made by Khan for WoA, and I guess percy responded by saying they wre "disgusting" or something to the effect. I guess if you would like to compare his zones to artwork, you could say his "paintings" make the Mona Lisa look like a child's scribling. But, enough with that. The weird part of this post is the fact that we were just wishing some of the top end dev's would help out to make this new game get developed faster. The fact that WC posted the idea of that happening seems very weird, and seems like possibly the emu community as a whole would like to see it happen.

Point is, if you would like to help, feel free. We deffinately need a large staff to get the project moving at a decent pace. Contact Luft, Kerosh, or myself. We will be glad to look into your application.

Orknel

[Traul]

Originally Posted by Woodlife Treestrider

Well, that is quite possibly the most disturbing thing I have read in month's.... Not 3 days ago, I sent a PM to WindCatcher offering to lend a hand to a "server" a few of my friends and I are making. The difference is, I told him we were making custom everything. Custom weapons, npcs, zones, you name it. We eventually will change to a custom DB cause the current one is getting to be pointless. WindCatcher can vouch for the validity of the PM, infact I have an unread PM in my box, most likely from WC. Seeing this topic, I could not wait to post a reply.

Elements of Norrath was first planned to be a server with a lot of custom content, by EQEmu standards atleast. But, ever since the addition of our modeler, Percy, a great many doors have been opened to the idea of just making a new game in itself. Here is an example of how good Percy is. Kerosh showed him the zones made by Khan for WoA, and I guess percy responded by saying they wre "disgusting" or something to the effect. I guess if you would like to compare his zones to artwork, you could say his "paintings" make the Mona Lisa look like a child's scribling. But, enough with that. The weird part of this post is the fact that we were just wishing some of the top end dev's would help out to make this new game get developed faster. The fact that WC posted the idea of that happening seems very weird, and seems like possibly the emu community as a whole would like to see it happen.

Point is, if you would like to help, feel free. We deffinately need a large staff to get the project moving at a decent pace. Contact Luft, Kerosh, or myself. We will be glad to look into your application.

Orknel

Honestly, that post made no sense to me... Not to sound like a jerk or anything but how does the probable death of Winter's Roar have anything to do with the development of your server?

[Wiz]

Originally Posted by Woodlife Treestrider

Well, that is quite possibly the most disturbing thing I have read in month's.... Not 3 days ago, I sent a PM to WindCatcher offering to lend a hand to a "server" a few of my friends and I are making. The difference is, I told him we were making custom everything. Custom weapons, npcs, zones, you name it. We eventually will change to a custom DB cause the current one is getting to be pointless. WindCatcher can vouch for the validity of the PM, infact I have an unread PM in my box, most likely from WC. Seeing this topic, I could not wait to post a reply.

Elements of Norrath was first planned to be a server with a lot of custom content, by EQEmu standards atleast. But, ever since the addition of our modeler, Percy, a great many doors have been opened to the idea of just making a new game in itself. Here is an example of how good Percy is. Kerosh showed him the zones made by Khan for WoA, and I guess percy responded by saying they wre "disgusting" or something to the effect. I guess if you would like to compare his zones to artwork, you could say his "paintings" make the Mona Lisa look like a child's scribling. But, enough with that. The weird part of this post is the fact that we were just wishing some of the top end dev's would help out to make this new game get developed faster. The fact that WC posted the idea of that happening seems very weird, and seems like possibly the emu community as a whole would like to see it happen.

Point is, if you would like to help, feel free. We deffinately need a large staff to get the project moving at a decent pace. Contact Luft, Kerosh, or myself. We will be glad to look into your application.

Orknel

Arrogance is not a good measure of ability.