Titanium vs. RoF?

[NickW]

I am new here and found the play guide.

http://108.61.129.166/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=PlayGuide

If I use Titanium to install EQEmu do I only get the first 10 expansions worth of content?

If I use RoF do I get 19 expansions worth of content?

Or does it not matter which I use?

Edit: It also says in that guide that I should use SoD or later if I have a dual core. I have a Q6600 Quad core.. Is this a problem?

Edit 2: In step three of that guide it says I need to create a EQEmu login account. Do I still need to do this if I just want to host/play the game singleplayer?

Edit 3: I just found this guide on what looks to be the EQEmu wiki? Or a new version of the wiki?

http://wiki.eqemulator.org/p?Complet...Guide&frm=Main

Should I be using this guide instead?

[Uleat]

Regardless of client, if you play on a peqdb-based server, you will only receive playable content up to Gates of Discord.

Custom servers may provide more..or some even restrict their expansion content. You should check a given server's website to see if there's a restriction
on the clients that they allow to connect to their server. Otherwise, any of the supported client should suffice.

The biggest discernment between clients, at the moment, is features.

[NickW]

Originally Posted by Uleat

Regardless of client, if you play on a peqdb-based server, you will only receive playable content up to Gates of Discord.

Custom servers may provide more..or some even restrict their expansion content. You should check a given server's website to see if there's a restriction
on the clients that they allow to connect to their server. Otherwise, any of the supported client should suffice.

The biggest discernment between clients, at the moment, is features.

Thanx for the response. Do you happen to know the answer to any of my other questions? Like which guide to use?

[moofta]

1. Currently the most stable and perhaps most widely available client is the Underfoot one (*coughs*). I would suggest using this if you can, it works better in every way than Titanium, and RoF is still not 100% supported.

2. If you want to run your own server on your PC and log into that rather than play on a public EQEmu server, you do not need an EQEmu login account. I would suggest getting one though, and trying a public server first anyway.

3. This is the new wiki and therefore most up to date for setting up your own server on Windows:-
http://wiki.eqemulator.org/p?Complet...Guide&frm=Main

4. I really would suggest playing on a currently set up server first, partly to know what to expect, and secondly because most servers could do with more players Too many chiefs and not enough Indians!

[demonstar55]

The best supported clients are Titanium then probably Underfoot. Many people prefer UF due to the fact that it uses the newer HP formula and has more features (xtarget, etc) (note: if you find a 'HoT' client its actually just UF with the extra zone files from HoT)

The rest of the clients work well enough to be playable, but not as well as tit or if.

If you're setting up a single player only server and your own login server you don't need to make an account, although unless you do some port forwarding, no friends will be able to play with you (well you need to don't that anyways ...)

You should also try to use the new wiki since the old one has been in read only mode for a while and info can be out of date (although, the new wiki might not have been updated yet either .... Documenting is hard :PW well busy work)

[NickW]

Thanx again for the info. Helps a lot. Kinda confused as to what this step means.

c) Download Visual Studio Express 2013 for Windows Desktop

Download Visual Studio Express 2013 For Windows Desktop (note: there is a "Visual Studio Express 2013 For Windows Desktop" do not use it as it won't work) and put it in the C:\EQ\Installs directory. Download the installer by clicking on 'Install Now'. Note this one is only a simple web installer package. It will download more when you run it.
You can also use full versions of Visual Studio (Professional, Premium, Ultimate), and Visual Studio 2012 Express also.


First it says to download Visual Studio Express 2013 For Windows Desktop. Then it immediately says "note: there is a "Visual Studio Express 2013 For Windows Desktop" do not use it as it won't work"...

So what gives? Typo?

[sorvani]

Didn't look very hard then.
First search result:


Hmm this shows 2013..


but the search result said 2010.. Maybe I should read the page.. oh look right there at the bottom....



How about that.. Fucking put a little effort into it.

[NickW]

Originally Posted by sorvani

Didn't look very hard then.
First search result:


Hmm this shows 2013..


but the search result said 2010.. Maybe I should read the page.. oh look right there at the bottom....



How about that.. Fucking put a little effort into it.

Not sure why you are so hostile.. And I already mentioned those seven options previously. In other words, I already flat out stated I had seen those seven. None of them are listed as the desktop version. Which is what was recommended. And what we were talking about. Feel free not to offer any more help. I could happily do without your advice. Seeing as you have a short temper and can't read the entire topic before posting..

[image]

Express is the only free version of Visual Studio and it is specifically designed for the desktop. Unless you have experience in C++ development you would be better off using pre-compiled binaries instead of trying to compile the source with its dependencies.

[NickW]

Originally Posted by image

Express is the only free version of Visual Studio and it is specifically designed for the desktop. Unless you have experience in C++ development you would be better off using pre-compiled binaries instead of trying to compile the source with its dependencies.

The guide for setting up a server and moofta had said to use the, "Visual Studio Express 2013 For Windows Desktop" version. Because the, "Visual Studio Express 2013 For Windows" version wouldn't work. I have been looking for the 2012/2010 equivalent of that. If the regular Windows version of 2013 doesn't work. I would assume 2012/2010 might have the same problem? Unless I am missing something?

[lerxst2112]

You want the C++ version. The new names don't apply to old products.

[vsab]

Wiki updated.

[NickW]

I've followed the guide down to:

"c) Use CMake to build the required Visual Studio Solution and Project files

Launch your CMake program, typically labeled CMake (cmake-gui). Eg: Start -> CMake 2.8 -> CMake
To the right of the 'Where is the source code' box, click 'Browse Source' and expand the tree, C:\EQ\, click once on Source and then click OK, so the entry in the 'Where is the source code' box should read C:/EQ/Source/
To the right of the 'Where to build the binaries box', click 'Browse Build', expand the tree down to C:\EQ\Source. With 'Source' highlighted, click 'Make New Folder'. Name the new folder Build and click OK. The 'Where to build the binaries box' should now have C:/EQ/Source/Build in it.
Click on Configure.
In the next dialogue that says 'Specify the generator for this project', select 'Visual Studio 12'. Click on Finish.
Some messages should appear in the lower window with hopefully no errors.
Ensure you tick EQEMU_BUILD_LUA then click on Configure again.
(OPTIONAL) If you want to use 'Bots' on your server, click the box next to EQEMU_ENABLE_BOTS and then click Configure again.
(OPTIONAL) If you want to run your own local login server (useful if you want to work on your server disconnected from the internet- on a laptop, for example) then tick EQEMU_BUILD_LOGIN.
Click on Generate and CMake should say 'Generating done' in the output window. You can now close CMake."

However, when specifying the generator for the project. If I choose Visual Studio 12 it says, "Error in configuration process, project files may be invalid". Makes sense seeing as I couldn't install it. I did succesfully install Visual C++ 2010 Express. But, when I select Visual Studio 10 I get a Microsoft Windows popup that says:

"Microsoft Resource File To COFF Object Conversion Utility has stopped working.

A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available."

And then the same error, "Error in configuration process, project files may be invalid".

I've followed the steps to the letter so far. Double checking everything. Any ideas?

Again, thanx for the help.









Edit: I added in a bunch of screen caps.

[vsab]

Your screenshots look like Windows 7, or is it Vista?

Visual Studio Express 2013 for Windows Desktop will work on a fully up to date (via windows update, including all service packs) version of Windows 7.

If it's Vista, well good luck on that, nothing seemed to work on that P.O.S operating system!

Try- removing and reinstalling Visual Studio. I would recommend reboots in between each one, and disabling any anti-virus software you have during the install. If that fails, try installing the Windows SDK appropriate for your OS. The Windows 7 one is here:- http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/bb980924.aspx .

Otherwise, try Googling for "Microsoft Resource File To COFF Object Conversion Utility has stopped working".

Incidentally, text logs of compile errors are typically more handy than screen shots, where possible.

[NickW]

It took some digging. But, I found the solution. There is a service pack for Visual Studio 10. I installed it and presto! Back in business. Might want to add that to the wiki. Without it that error just keeps popping up in CMake.

Edit: Here's a link to the service pack. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=23691