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12-12-2002, 08:49 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 0
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to add: why should an open source project making no profit pay for a bulletin board system??
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12-12-2002, 09:47 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 289
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howdy =) I've been using phpbb since 1.4, love it =) Honestly I thought the letter from vBullshittin was hostile too. If I were a licensed cust I would not renew if they came at me with that much hostility. Luckily I've been a phpBB user for a long time and don't plan on switching now =)
-Z.
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12-12-2002, 10:22 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 65
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Zeit! OMFG!
*meows*
Pneu
PS: We play on same server and used to be guildies...
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12-12-2002, 10:23 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Tourist town USA
Posts: 1,671
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Yea pretty tacky and hostile apraoch to license issues. Do the people that write these believe they are more effective / legally binding if they sound rude and hostile?
In my eyes an apropriate apprach is:
Our records do not show your site as a valid licensed site
If this is a clerical error and you believe you have a valid copy, please update records/send info to us
If you have not licensed our software, you have the following 2 choices. You may buy a license for our software. This is our prefered solution. Or you may cease using our product, and remove it from your web page.
In the unfortunate event that this has not been resolved in 30 days we will be forced to resort to legal action.
Any how PHPBB seems to be a good opensource replacement.
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12-12-2002, 10:37 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 4
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They would have gotten a letter back saying...
Thank you for your intrest in my bullitin board. You can purchace a copy for 150.00.
Then thank them for taking the time to admire the work..lol.
they diserved that much....
phpBB looks nicer anyway.. so no harm done.
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12-12-2002, 11:11 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 106
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I thought you left too image
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12-12-2002, 11:38 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 38
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I THink Hoggy is right in his reaction
I've delt with companys like vBulletin before, and trust me, that wasnt just an idle threat, thier favorite reaction to suspected "copyright infringement" is usually alot worse then just a letter, as for the 600 in the last month, did you happen to notice how many DIDNT renew thier license for thier software THOUSANDS in the last 6 months, you would think that would tell them something about thier software... anyway thier favorite response is to just DEMAND that your host drop your site immediately, or they start by taking action against them, then you, then if that doesnt work, they go after your DNS register, and yes I have seen reports of them doing it, more then once.....
I personally think Hoggy restrained himself quiet well when it came to thier e-mails
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12-12-2002, 05:46 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 0
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Image: Yeah, point taken and I agree =).
Slayer02: Yes, but just because I'm not a dev doesn't mean I can't help out I decided, so I'll be releasing some things soon (mainly the new version of the GUI Packet Collector, once I finish a few features and test it a lot more throughly than last time). PS: I hope the tone of this didn't seem hostile to you slayer, just couldn't think of another way to word it better.
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12-13-2002, 07:00 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 106
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I see, no not hostile at all  Just kind of new now (I quit back when you had taken away the domain name yada yada yada) hehe, so was kind of confused because when I left alot of people hated you lol... not being offensive just curious |
12-13-2002, 11:45 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4
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Personally, if they would have tried that shit with my sites..
I would have let them try it. Then, after they waste a few dollars and time on trying to shut down my servers (Which, btw, my host is owned by..my company..lol..and my dns is..oh gee..owned by the same company) then I would have switched to phpBB and threw out a mass forwarded message to every vBulletin user I could find on google..making sure to send a CC to vBulletin staff.
But, then again, I'm an asshole.
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12-14-2002, 12:18 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 2,614
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Well, I can't say I blame them in their reaction, its completely natural, but their tone and methods really sucked.
I don't care if you own your own company or not Kamikaze, copyrighted software is copywrited software, and a legally valid C&D letter upstream of you will end up costing you downtime on your servers till you get it worked out.. (I've been there , trust me, never think because you have an LLC, that completely isolates you from liability.)
It doesnt matter who owns your DNS names either, I've seen a letter from a lawyer to Network Associates get a DNS name yanked. It can and does happen (Happened to ToysRGus.com once because ToysRUs thought they should own them all)
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