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Old 01-08-2006, 01:42 AM
gottasummer
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That is what I personally disagree with.

Not to disrespect you in any way at all, but I feel like if we were to have some people who were devoted, and be here for a while, some people who do not have a bad reputation, some people that are caring and "give a shit" about what happens, the EMU, and just other people in general.

I would not take the time to write this if I felt like this was not possible. I feel like it can be done, I feel like people in general can be nice, and can make a difference.

And by making a new forum for each version, I had forgot to mention, after a new version is put up, you lock the old one and make it invisible so nobody can view / access it.

Anyway, I personally feel like your message was rude, I feel like it could be done.

Now, 40+ hours a week for me at least would not be too hard, take about 3 or 4 hours a week on monday-friday, and take a lot longer on saturday and sunday... i have done the calculations, it should equal out to be around 40, granted some people are busy and have a social life.

One big reason why I feel like so many people have failed to suceed is because they feel like they can make a change so quickly, I personally do not set expectations of myself, I set some, but I do not set them high, I do have goals, but a few things about me that some of you probably did not know:


I tend to be a loner, and have a very little, if any, social life
I enjoy learning, and very seldom give up.
If someone respects me, or is willing to learn, I will treat them with respect as well.


I do not know why people have been joining the project, do nothing, then leave. Unfortunately for me, I tend to be an observer of human nature, I might not be as loyal as some of you may wish, but that does not excuse the fact that I feel sorrow for the developers, and I do get annoyed when people expect so much.

And how many of you post anything saying thanks, or make a donation to the developers? I doubt most of you have done that

One thing I have learned is that if you want someone to do something for you, don't nag them about it, show respect, give them space, and thank them.

There are many improvements ahead, many of you just expect something that you can click and run, and do not want to contribute. One of the advantages of an open source project is that, it is not just a group of people's project, it is all of ours, all that are willing to contribute, and if you can't do that, show support.

One thing that I hated was to see that chat log, FatherNitwit is doing all of this with hardly anything in return from most of us. I did something I doubt that any of you would consider doing, show thanks, I had made a donation to EQEmu last night.

And I can say only this, there are a couple of new features that will get all of you guys very excited shortly, especially those who have a hard time working with the source and compiling it yourself.

Come on, it is time that some of us step up and take some of the burdon, and try...

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Ok a few points, making a diferent forum for each version would just confuse people more, not less.

The stuff thats frustrating you people is the same stuff thats frustrated thousands of people before you, and it CANT be fixed, yes I sayd CANT.

There is hundreds of man hours already into the forums to attempt fixing the issues, it would take a person working on it full time 40+ hours a week to fix and maintain it, and we dont have the resorces to do that, and everyone offering would get fed up and leave the project like the 15 or so people who have already done just that.

Yes attitudes could be better, yes we have some rude people, but this is an open source free project, we are NOT aloud to controle who comes here unless they violate the community or open source rules.

The wikki is under everyones controle, make it the way you want it.
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Old 01-08-2006, 02:11 AM
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And by making a new forum for each version, I had forgot to mention, after a new version is put up, you lock the old one and make it invisible so nobody can view / access it.
We still have people using 4.4 and ealier, and every other version up till now. and thay are able to find and fix issues by searching the forums and bringing up the threads from way back then.

You and everyone else has access to everything needed to fix this community how you feel it should be. Dont like the lack of comments in the code? add some, dont like the wikki? change it, want the forums set up a diferent way? I can do most changes PM me, bigger things need to be done by Rogean PM him.

People coming up saying they dont like something give them access to everything isnt going to happen. It would be nice if you could trust everyone with admin power, but the fact is most people would abuse it.
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Old 01-08-2006, 02:41 AM
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True, which is unfortunate.

4.4 and earlier, wow... didn't know you still had those loginservers running :S



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We still have people using 4.4 and ealier, and every other version up till now. and thay are able to find and fix issues by searching the forums and bringing up the threads from way back then.

You and everyone else has access to everything needed to fix this community how you feel it should be. Dont like the lack of comments in the code? add some, dont like the wikki? change it, want the forums set up a diferent way? I can do most changes PM me, bigger things need to be done by Rogean PM him.

People coming up saying they dont like something give them access to everything isnt going to happen. It would be nice if you could trust everyone with admin power, but the fact is most people would abuse it.
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Old 01-08-2006, 03:08 AM
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True, which is unfortunate.

4.4 and earlier, wow... didn't know you still had those loginservers running :S

we dont, but in a lot of ways those ealier versions were more stable then the later ones, and minilogin works like a charm on them too.
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