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      | General::General Discussion General discussion about EverQuest(tm), EQEMu, and related topics. Do not post support topics here.
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				 Law of sony ! 
 If anyone want to know sony position about emulation, you can read this eula :http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/ne...le.vm?id=50074 
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		| 14. You will not create, use or provide any server emulator or other site where EverQuest may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to EverQuest without the express written permission of Sony Computer Entertainment America. |  Thats explain many things :( We are sure to be Outlaw :p
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			| Hill Giant |  | 
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				 outlaw 
 
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Heck why be an  outlaw when you can be a in-law . Theres no way they going to get all of us. I think once you try to become big. SOE will try and crush you.			 Last edited by kouhei; 02-07-2006 at 10:31 PM..
				Reason: not sure why.
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			| Hill Giant |  | 
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 heh thats the 2nd time today i clicked on the same linkfirst was on my eq live  guilds forum now here :/
 
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				02-07-2006, 05:13 PM
			
			
			
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			| Fire Beetle |  | 
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 ah thank you Belfedia, that answers alot of my questions ive been pondering about. 
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			| Hill Giant |  | 
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				 dam 
 dang I love this rule. 
2. You may not ninjaloot. 
    
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			| Sarnak |  | 
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 So is this anti-emulation rule a new rule?  Or is this a long-standing rule that has been discussed before?  I thought the only actual rule we were breaking with EQEmu was the changing of the eqhost.txt file... and for that your account can be banned, but I thought I had heard that the emulator itself was never expressly forbidden... now it seems to be.  Still doesn't matter if they wanna take my live account away... |  
	
		
	
	
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				02-08-2006, 10:32 AM
			
			
			
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			| Demi-God |  | 
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 Rules of Conduct
 THE FOLLOWING ARE THE BASIC RULES OF CONDUCT THAT GOVERN PLAYER INTERACTION AND ACTIVITY WITHIN EVERQUEST AND IN THE OFFICIAL EVERQUEST FORUMS. FAILURE TO ACT RESPONSIBLY AND COMPLY WITH THESE RULES WITHIN EVERQUEST AND THE OFFICIAL EVERQUEST FORUMS MAY RESULT IN THE TERMINATION OF YOUR ACCOUNT WITHOUT ANY REFUND OF ANY KIND.
 
 In other words if you are caught they can only terminate your account. Oh noz!!
 
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				02-08-2006, 01:13 PM
			
			
			
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			| Demi-God |  | 
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 Well. We know they dislike it, otherwise WR or S2K (original) would be up. Because they are kicking and screaming doesn't make it law. (Although, it wouldn't take actual law to get our project frozen for a while). I think they're aware that if they did anything to EQEMu we'd just move the project host outside of the United States and continue. 
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				02-08-2006, 01:55 PM
			
			
			
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			| Demi-God |  | 
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 Yes EULA isn't a law...But sony want we know it...
 That... [CENSURED]
 
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 It's just Sony's EULA, saying what they "want" you to do because they will cry about it and say their dad will beat up your dad.  So all they will do is ban your account (if you have one), and if you don't distribute their material, ie warez, then they can't do anything about it but again, cry.  BOO HOO, we're zillionares and we want you to be paying 14.95 a month too. 
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 Besides, I'm pretty sure that the EULA only applies if you click agree--- otherwise, you would never get the screen that says "Agree" or "Disagree", you would get a paper with your purchase with the EULA inside of it and every one of us would then be breaking contract. |  
	
		
	
	
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			| Demi-God |  | 
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				 Besides, I'm pretty sure that the EULA only applies if you click agree--- otherwise, you would never get the screen that says "Agree" or "Disagree", you would get a paper with your purchase with the EULA inside of it and every one of us would then be breaking contract. |  Yes, but if you modify program for don't have the Eula, this is illegal rofl... 
Sony thinking good.... for his money !
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			| Sarnak |  | 
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 as far as my understanding goes  Sony has copy write of the Client. and As long as EQEMU does not manip the client they are not breaking any laws. How YOU use your client is up to you. The EULA says that they can violate your CD for playing on an EMU server as long as you purchased the game legally
 explination came from Doodman
 
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