Patching Alternatives

Cisyouc · #1 02-23-2006, 03:00 AM

My opinion is that, while it will help some people who are willing to go buy it, EverQuest is not the most actively-pirated game, and lets face it, while many of us are not, many of the people here are just here for free everquest. There are still going to be people looking for titanium patches.

However. I do like the fact that the goal is to work on the pre-"all-these-unnecessary-revamps" client. In my opinion, I don't think we're any better moving to titanium than staying where we are now -- except that if we move, there will be alot of people who came for free everquest now without a client.

My 2 cents.

MrJag · #2 02-23-2006, 03:24 AM

in the last 6 years i have bought so many EQ CDs
i have a pretty good stack of um here,
back in dec. i bought the digital download of EQ plat
just before titanium came out. if i had to buy titanium to be able to play EQEmu
i would but, seeing i have so many already and it would just me giving sony more money, id much rather donate to eqemu and just use all the stuff ive bought already
i paied sony for a char transfer with items and a week after that my account was banned
contacting sony they said ther was to many duplicate items on server...
made no since at all to me except i was just scamed by sony for the 75 bucks
then i buy the digital download of eq plat giving sony even more money like a dumb ass, played for 18 of the 30 days it came with , and been hanging out on these forums ever since waiting for when i will be able to come back
if EQEmu caught up to live twice a year that would be great, or if the devs did it where everyone had to buy titanium fine id just like to come back to EQEmu

Dr Zauis · #3 02-23-2006, 05:10 AM

One thing good about using titanium is that EQ is stopped in its tracks from all the Krazy "advancements" being made.(like the wonderful ui LOL)
Too bad it wasnt done or wasnt able to be done with one of these classic versions I keep reading about that everone who has played for many years seems to be enthralled with. I feel Ive missed something really good and now its far too late to experience it.

I voted to keep it like it is but really how I feel is that whatever Father Nitwit and the other Devs want to do and feel they are having fun doing it is OK with me.
I dont think trying to increase population base is good reason myself..Sounds too much like commercialism and what Sony is trying to do.

Im not really interested in freeloaders. I dont think thats what this is about.
Let Sony deal with em.

arovin · #4 02-24-2006, 05:21 AM

Seems to me that it would hinder the community at first as everyone would need to pickup titanium if the servers the played on moved to that version. But in the long run the community might be better for it as new members would be able to join and the devs would not need to spend time trying to keep up with live and just focus on 100% on making a better emulator that just worked with that version.

Sure there would still be requests for the files but they could be responded to with an answer of go buy the CDs instead of sorry we can't help you.

tallerin · #5 02-24-2006, 09:34 AM

I like the idea of makeing eqemu compatible with titanium. The way i see it you can't please everyone. There is always going to be someone that does not like the way it was done regardless of the decision.

Dr Zauis · #6 02-24-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tallerin

I like the idea of makeing eqemu compatible with titanium. The way i see it you can't please everyone. There is always going to be someone that does not like the way it was done regardless of the decision.

So true! Thats why I say..Whatever FNW and Devs do is fine with me..As long as they feel they are enjoying themselves..

kedobin · #7 02-24-2006, 11:10 AM

I think allowing a version of the emu to work with a fresh cd install could be beneficial.

I do agree with those who claim illegal downloading may occur, but as also said, it's bound to happen anyway.

Doing this would potentially reduce the burden on the devs, since they wouldn't feel so pressured to try and stay compatible with live.

Another benefit, although somewhat selfish-sounding, is that some of us could be able to become more updated. I'm still running 0.6.0-DR2, because I hadn't patched when the emu was live-compatible.

Anyway, this could always be seen as a test - if it flops, then just do what had been done before (chase live), or if it works fine, then maybe update when either another expansion is released, or when the full game and most/all expansions are released as a set.

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therealjjj77 · #8 07-01-2006, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Zauis

One thing good about using titanium is that EQ is stopped in its tracks from all the Krazy "advancements" being made.(like the wonderful ui LOL)

The UI can be changed by pressing Alt+W, clicking options, go to the display tab, and then select UIs and select classic(or whatever it's called)UI. I also hate the new one but it's a quick change that can stay permanent on each character you make it on.

Avaran · #9 07-20-2006, 08:51 AM

I think of it this way....

EQ Titanium is easy to get. 20 bucks for all those expansions isn't a problem for me.

The install discs of EQ Titanium come with expansions far beyond Luclin, which is what we currently have running on our emulators. With the exception of a few POP and LOY zones that people have created here and there.

Should the DEVs stick with Titanium, I think we have enough content to fix and build to last us at least another few years... any expansions or patches that EQ puts into the game we usually don't even like. Let's be honest, at this point the content that Sony is putting into the game isn't very interesting, it's just to sell more games.

I think we should stick with Titanium, I know it's what me and my friends would all like to see. Just getting AAs to work would be nice. Let's stop chasing that latest patch and branch out on our own

-Av

Sourdough35 · #10 07-20-2006, 01:09 PM

You said it, Avaran. Why bother with the hassle of keeping current when the only real benefit is adding expansion content that (1) current Databases aren't even close to, and (2) no one wants to play anyway.

Titanium has 10 expansions on it. Assuming people even want the live content for half of those, I'd say people working on this project have a ton on their plate, and the opportunity to put a ton on the players' plates as well.

And it may be difficult a few years down the line for newcomers to get a copy of the Titanium discs, but it's not like it's easier for them to get copies of non-existent or illegal backpatch data.

EliteSting · #11 02-24-2006, 04:29 PM

IMO , having a standard that is legally available to everyone would be the route to go. Granted , yes there's going to be the idiot posters that want to just download the files and go with it. Heck I'm surprised nobody has asked for an .exe file that does everything for you. >.< Having something that is available without "breaking the law" would also open the doors to alot more people that are willing to contribute to the development of the emu. Yes , dedicated individuals that will really help out on a project are few and far between , but in the long run I can see it as more of a blessing then a hinderance. Just my 2 cents.

Angelox · #12 05-31-2006, 05:56 AM

I'm not here because it's free, I'm here because I don't have to worry about "patch days" and all the other constant fixes, updates/add-on's SOE does. I liked the game when it started out - then Kunark was ok and a few of the others, but then it all just got to be too much too soon, and too overwhelming. I even had posts in the Sony forums begging them for a classic server - that was before i founf this site.
I'm really impressed with all that's been done here - I never thought anyone would get so far advanced with an EQ Emulator. When I first started here, the subject on the emails to my friends about EQEmu was; "The Ultimate Emulator" - I've been into emulators since the old BBS days - and EQEmu is up at the top of my list now.
Needless to say, Titanium was a "blessing" for me, and no one should complain about 20.00 dollars it costs, if they ever played EQ Live for 15.00 a month.