Paradigma (PvP,Custom Rules + Content)

[GrumppygregSZ]

- If you hit someone out of the level range you get a 1 minute Outcast Flag for a kill 100 minutes. Consider someone first before attacking, it will tell you if you are at range or not.

One major issue with this is that you are giving clerics and other healers free reign to simply level up just out of the range of a 50 and tag along with level 50 friends healing them, while if they are attacked themselves by another level 50 the attacker will be unjustly punished. This rule should be changed and everyone should be open to be pked without penalty.

[mrfix186]

I wouldnt worry about it really, unless the 100 min flags stack heh, Id blast through the healer in no time and just wait the timer off before going around the guards or merchants.

[aza77]

well you don't need to remove the rule itself. you just need to modify it a little bit. i'm going to add a pvp check. if you hit someone or if you get hit you will be flagged as engaged for 1 minute. if you heal or buff someone who is engaged a level check will be done. if any of the opponents isn't in level range you will get a 10 minutes outcast flag.

[bufferofnewbies]

You guys sound like excellent coders.. mind if I steal all of your brains one day as part of my mad scientist scheme to finally learn C++?

Good job on the server so far (although, admittedly, said from a non-played perspective), you sound like you have quite an interesting setup going there. Very well thought out system and the changes you seem to be making are quick, concise and well implimented.

I wish you luck on the server.

Originally Posted by aza77

well you don't need to remove the rule itself. you just need to modify it a little bit. i'm going to add a pvp check. if you hit someone or if you get hit you will be flagged as engaged for 1 minute. if you heal or buff someone who is engaged a level check will be done. if any of the opponents isn't in level range you will get a 10 minutes outcast flag.

[aza77]

thanks

lets see how ppls will like it.. the beta is mostly a code + hardware test. world is mostly customized already but we still miss a lot of quests and content we wanted to add

[mrfix186]

Also, Make sure you put limits on who can have what buffs on them.

Resist buffs
Damage Shields(lvl 40-50 mage/druid DS= death to low level melee)
Stat Buffs(High lvl str buffs can change an avg of 10 dmg to 20 dmg depending how the damage for melee is calced)
HP buffs(1k+hp at lvl 10 ;o)
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A lvl 10 with lvl 30/40/50 buffs is insane to kill.

Or make a Flag that allowes the lower lvl to have buff, but removes all penalties for haveing the low level killed ;o
Can still help the lower level, level but if they go into pvp with buffs, some lvl 30/40/50 could come along and kill them in 10 secs if they causing trouble to other lower level people ;o
Or If you Engage in Pvp! All buffs that are +so many levels over your level get removed ;o

[aza77]

well good suggestion mrfix186 .. best way would be to allow beneficial buffing + healing only at groups, allied guilds or raids. If someone is 20 levels below the caster (not the spell to avoid possible exploits) he + the caster will get outcast flagged for the duration of the spell.

[GrumppygregSZ]

well you don't need to remove the rule itself. you just need to modify it a little bit. i'm going to add a pvp check. if you hit someone or if you get hit you will be flagged as engaged for 1 minute. if you heal or buff someone who is engaged a level check will be done. if any of the opponents isn't in level range you will get a 10 minutes outcast flag.

Wouldn't it be easier on you guys (and more fun for us) if you just eliminated the penalty for attacking someone out of your range? I imagine you are trying to create as close to a chaotic and hardcore pvp server as possible, considering it is going to be free for all so why not take another step towards unfettered pvp by removing such level range penalties? Griefing is just another way to attract griefers while the griefed will grow into little griefer hunters, hence increasing and strengthening the pvp environment.

[aza77]

if we remove the rules we would have a pure pvp server .. and that's not what we want to build. our idea is a strategy mmorpg server where you can't just run around and kill everyone. so basicly a mix between pve and pvp.

[Nancy]

If you want to host a PVP server then please make it have maximum potential PVP! Griefers get their come-uppance by making a name for themselves and getting attacked on sight by many people, corpse camped or denied grouping and guilding.

Having buffs, heals and everything available to cast wherever a player desires allows for more intricate, fun and rewarding pvp battles. Running to save the life of a lowbie being ganged up on, lowbies ganging up on a high level greifer, etc.

I was an Evil on Sullon Zek and numerous times i would have willingly healed a Good to help him kill a Nuetral that i knew and dispised, simply because of that Nuetral's notoriety. I did engage in combat with Goods as my temporary allies sometimes as a means to an end. Granted I would always look for the best opportunity to stab them in the back as soon as i had a chance and didn't require their assistance any longer ~ I was Evil in my roleplay spirit ~

My brother and I would also go gank noobies in Gfay in order to lure groups of high level Goods to chase us around so we could play tricks and kill them in the forest. No better way to get a big fight going than by picking on the weak so they cry for help.

[Smedy]

Is this server up or is this a old bumped thread? I would love to test to play on this one

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by Smedy

Is this server up or is this a old bumped thread? I would love to test to play on this one

It's up currently. Log in, look around, have some fun!

[Squarecircle]

EQGame.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.

no further info given about the crash in the box..

not running vista.

Hope you guys can work around this, I'd love to join you. everquest pvp is all I ever will play (and I miss it so dearly) props to you guys for setting up a pvp server. Hopefully I can get in there......later.

-Patrick