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View Poll Results: Do we need a Blacklist for Hackers and Cheaters ?
YES! 10 43.48%
NO! 8 34.78%
I don't mind 5 21.74%
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:29 AM
Darkonig
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Hackers and cheaters? Making the game enjoyable or making it a nightmare? These are not necessarily related topics. Hackers are an essential part of the emulator. If it were not for hackers, the eqemu would not exist. Those who dig into the inner workings to find out what makes them tick and then incorporate those ideas into the emulator are a necessity.

It is possible, and I experienced it on live even, for someone who is neither a hacker nor a cheater to make the game unenjoyable for others, by hogging spawns, training, harrassing. All it takes is a selfish attitude and a login. This kind of behavior is irrespective of if a player is a hacker or cheater.

When you talk about should hackers and cheaters be banned, what exactly are you talking about and how do you identify it is taking place?
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:06 AM
John Adams
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Originally Posted by Darkonig
Hackers are an essential part of the emulator. If it were not for hackers, the eqemu would not exist. Those who dig into the inner workings to find out what makes them tick and then incorporate those ideas into the emulator are a necessity.
Interesting point. However, to not squabble over symantics, I am sure everyone who comprehends the language understands what the "nitty gritty" of this topic is all about - griefers, or people who find ways to exploit the system to an end that unbalances the overall "fairness" of the server.

But I'm certain you already knew that.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:13 PM
mattmeck
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/rant on

Todays sociaty sees 2 diferent set of people.

Hackers = Those trying to make life worse for others, finding issues with code and exploiting them for there own gain, and to make things worse for others.

Crackers = People who find the faults in code to fix them or make others aware, those out to improve the lives of others.

We want hackers out and crackers in, and as stated above you already knew this and just posts to gt a rise outa people.

/rant off
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:05 AM
Richardo
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Curse those cheaters! They've made a mockery of us all!!! I say we strike back!!! Pillage the farms! Rape their Characters! and vote Richardo Presedent!


Edit: Just an idea, I haven't read the whole thread but... Why don't you guys create a 3rd party blacklist?...

For example..

Create a mysql driven website that holds a large compendium of banned players. Each server admin will have access (after proving ownership or however you would allow access) and everyone would pitch in bans (ONLY for cheaters, not for own personal reasons) and every 2 - 3 weeks you can update a large SQL file that people can source into their databases for banlist.

And pardon me for being late but I haven't played with eqemu in months.. Is there a command to ban IPs yet? If not.. Write one.. Sure you can ban them from your server, but it would simplify things just to add a command :p

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Old 01-30-2007, 11:39 AM
RangerDown
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I don't believe there is an IP ban command in yet (though I'd like to see one too), but just a quick tip: most OS's now come with built-in firewall features; if necessary, you could use those to block IP's.
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