EQ2 Emulator?

techguy84 · #1 07-22-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LethalEncounter

Yah, that is what I am thinking, but if I make it an open beta then I will get hounded with people saying: "Which version do I need to have?", "Why can't I login?", "How do I know which version I have?", etc. Making it a closed beta until the expansion is released will allow me to focus more time on coding and less time answering questions. Once the expansion is released we freeze the client and do like eqemu did with Titanium. The problem with releasing the packet logger right now is that if SOE finds out the method it is using to grab the key, they might shut it down for good. We might release it to the public around October, but any sooner will risk breaking the project again.

I agree with you there LE. Have to answer questions like the stupid one I sent you in PM is just pointless if there coming in all the time, but thats why you got guys like John Adams or myself. We can swim around the forums and take care of most of the questions that may come up, like what version works and such. But anyhow, closed beta sounds best for those that can spare the time and have a available client to work. I myself think I have one, but not sure.

I think I recommend a few post back about freezing at a certain point and then catching up to that point in terms of content and performance. Granted we may have to move away down the line, but chasing live and adding the past two years of content in there is just way to much to ask.

The biggest thing though is where the project is located. Being a post in the Off-topic section of Everquest Emulator is the greatest thing as far as viewability goes. For example, anyone interested in a Everquest 2 Private Server will google it and the first result is a post in this off topic board that is 3 years old.

I dunno, I fell like maybe I should shut my mouth as I havent done anything for the project so I shouldnt be makeing any recommendations. Ignore me if you want to, but count me in when this gets going.

John Adams · #2 07-23-2007, 02:00 AM

I would also agree on closed beta, until you get something that is viable, playable, and that the average novice can setup at least as easily as EQEmu. We've waited a while, I'm sure we can wait a few more mos. I think the general panic is, there is one poor soul working on this. Should he get fed up or quit, the project dies (or at least stalls, since someone else would have to learn the code to pick up).

Not saying it'll go this way, and I am not saying there really IS one guy doing all the work (LE

) but that's what it appears, and I think that's the general sense around the forum. More people should help you with it... and not just the "me toos", but people who can communicate intelligently, know the language, and can dedicate the time.

I also feel EQ2Emu deserves it's own community. This thread is swell, but it's a lot to scan through to find specific info and will only get worse.

**LethalEncounter** · #3 07-23-2007, 09:04 AM

Aye, I might get a dedicated server again for this project that I could pay for using ad revenue (if the project ever becomes popular enough). Has anyone heard of AIT for dedicated hosting? Their prices blow everything else out of the water:

http://www.ait.com/dedicated-hosting.php

Just cant help but think there is a catch...

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Originally Posted by John Adams

I would also agree on closed beta, until you get something that is viable, playable, and that the average novice can setup at least as easily as EQEmu. We've waited a while, I'm sure we can wait a few more mos. I think the general panic is, there is one poor soul working on this. Should he get fed up or quit, the project dies (or at least stalls, since someone else would have to learn the code to pick up).

Not saying it'll go this way, and I am not saying there really IS one guy doing all the work (LE

) but that's what it appears, and I think that's the general sense around the forum. More people should help you with it... and not just the "me toos", but people who can communicate intelligently, know the language, and can dedicate the time.

I also feel EQ2Emu deserves it's own community. This thread is swell, but it's a lot to scan through to find specific info and will only get worse.

Secrets · #4 07-23-2007, 11:08 AM

Saw this, and i'm DEFINATELY interested as a 3 year (almost!) eq2 vet in a raiding guild.

I'm hoping you guys can get it together and maybe I can start helping.

Sounds very complicated to get started up, seeing as i've only worked with the foundation that EQ1 Emulator has.

*edit*

About keeping it closed beta until Rise of Kunark... good idea. Freezing on an expansion allows you to work on it and get the foundation down, while keeping those questions out of the community that the devs + moderators have to answer all the time. I remember back in 2004, I visited the forums and saw tons of questions about "What patch works? When will it work with x patch, and when will it work with y update?"

That took time out of development i'm sure, and is a good reason to keep it closed.

Not only that, but it's better to work on features one patch at a time.

John Adams · #5 07-23-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LethalEncounter

Has anyone heard of AIT for dedicated hosting? Their prices blow everything else out of the water:

$70/mo for web hosting?!? Holy god. I used "3Essentials" (I an sure they are not 'dedicated' tho) until I started my own hosting service with a friend, and it looked like the same stats, for $5/mo... billed monthly. Or is that a place to host a game server too? If the latter, 2GB/mo does not sound like a lot of bandwidth. I think I use that much browsing this forum every week.

http://www.3essentials.com/personal-web-hosting.asp

**LethalEncounter** · #6 07-23-2007, 12:26 PM

Nah, it is a dedicated server meaning you have root access and full control over the server. This is necessary to easily set up a login server on it. Also the bandwidth is 2,000GB (or 2 TB/month). Most places give you between 750GB-1TB for that price.

Secrets · #7 07-23-2007, 01:05 PM

Quick google search for reviews on them:

http://www.webhostingjury.com/reviews/AIT_

Seems like people have problems with them.

**LethalEncounter** · #8 07-23-2007, 01:06 PM

Yah I found that shortly after my last post. Guess I will continue looking :P

John Adams · #9 07-23-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LethalEncounter

Nah, it is a dedicated server meaning you have root access and full control over the server. This is necessary to easily set up a login server on it. Also the bandwidth is 2,000GB (or 2 TB/month). Most places give you between 750GB-1TB for that price.

oh my, i am so retarded. 2,000GB <-- didn't see that. Then yes, that does sound like a smokin deal. Maybe you get blessed with 1,400 popup ads on your site for that low low price

And...

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Originally Posted by LethalEncounter

Hehe, I'm really not that cynical, just trying to explain why I dont like donations

I couldn't agree more. Somewhere around this forum is my mostly offensive post that if you cannot afford to host your own server, you shouldn't be hosting one. I despise donations for private servers.Communities are a different story, and I think that might be what Techguy was getting at.

techguy84 · #10 07-23-2007, 04:08 PM

I could quote, but thats alot of post.

As far as what people may say, make it upfront and visable that things are done when there done and no one is owed anything just becaue they contibuted some legal tender. I personaly will donate for just what you have accomplished to date. If someone donated me some money because of my guide, I would be grateful, but at the same time, said person would not get specail rights that could be abused like "I gave you ONE FREAKIN DOLLAR, WHERES MY PVP." Even if Joe there gave you $100 its still no grounds for control over what you work on.

Donations are simply what the word implies, a dontation. I could pull a dictionary defintion here, but you guys know what it means. If I donate to the American Cancer Society, I dont go knocking on their door asking for reason why I have lost a family member to cancer. You donate to help cost of what has happend, and what can happen.

I can go on and on about kids that abuse what they do not understand but I'll stop here becuase you LE sumed it up in your post.

Still though. You deserve some financial compensation for your efforts and if Google doesnt pay your bills, give me a paypal link and I will help you out also, as will several several several others here, without all the hassle you speak of. Heck, do the souceforge thing as it dont stick out like a big "DONATE" button on the front page. We'll know where to go.