The current system

[ChaosSlayer]

corvanus - download the source code- its open to anyone.
Do your modifications, and then post the whole thing with your modifications on your own website - this way you will get all the credit for your hard work.. given anyone chooses to download your code over EQemu's code...

Saying this isnt open source because people get banned from the forums is a big load a cow doo doo.

If you go to any open source community and act like an ass clown you will be banned from the forums.

Open source means the code is open source, not the forums.

The code is free for anyone to look at, download and edit.

The forums are paid for and owned, Rogean paid for it this time around, the box that the login server and forums are on are paid for, Doodman did this I think.

Forums are here to be nice and are not required at all to call this open source, you have access to the code, and nobody has ever been blocked from downloading it, that make this open source.

Now take a deep breath, have a beer (if old enough) lay off the coffee and rethink your arguments because they are flawed. Every person who submitted a code fix, even if it was modified before going in, has been credited with the work.

[corvanus]

matt i am sorry but i submitted code back when 0.7.x was fairly new and (my mistake in the pm cavedude)which was a fix to windcatcher's code and sql he then deleted my posts changed the code and put it as his own work in the changelog which is why i left the forums and just recently reregistered if you wish i can dig through my code and get the fixes mentioned as well as his code before it was changed as i save well everything lol

im quite old enough to have a beer but dont usually have them at 6 am lol

Windcatcher has never been an EQEmu developer, he works on side projects.

If he did that he was wrong, however using him as an example of what EQEmu does (when he isnt a developer) is another flawed argument!

[cavedude]

Going back to 8/10/03 Windcatcher's name only appears once in the changelog:

==09/15/2005
FatherNitwit: Fixed coin trading bug reported by Windcatcher

You can grab the full changelog from CVS if you wish to confirm.

I think it's really messed up to drag his name through the mud. He's a good guy, and has been a huge contributor to EQEmu. His 3rd party tools are top notch. Why lie?

[Amra]

Every time I log in to these forums I see some message from some disgruntled person posting random crap about something and acting dumb. They ask if they can use another client (why titanium), or this code is crap and doesn't work etc. I am sure they are some user from a long while ago that didn't get their way or someone made them mad and they decide every now and then to post random crap on the forums. It's not just this person. There are a couple others.

Like cavedude said, windcatcher is a major contributer to eqemu. Either directly or indirectly he has done a hell of a lot for the project. Your talking about some code that was submitted 3 years ago? Why would you even care by now?

If you don't like it go away. Why waste your freakin time.

[fault]

I would pretty much say CD works his can off day in and day out with the PEQ databases, Which in reality is currently the most updated and well kept database/quest team for eqemu. To say or even badger him about *not doing anything for eqemu* is a load of bull.

as for the disagreement bans that were spoke of, I think I have recently *dissagreed* or made some comments apart from what cd and other devs feel/think, and I haven't been banned.. Kinda disproves your statement there.

If you go to any open source community and act like an ass clown you will be banned from the forums.

Open source means the code is open source, not the forums.

Corv, to have any decent emu, it takes years to develop it, REALLY good ones go slowly with clean code, Just as EQEMU is going, I can point out several MMO emus that have rushed things and have ended up with complete and utter garbage for code with no hope of fixing it except by rewriting everything from scratch.

If you have code to add then submit it, get of the high horse and help out, it is open source which means anyone can submit code for it.