Questions

[LordRathgil]

gah hit the button too soon to finish that last sentance...

It just doesnt make sense to bother with it if you have the same limitations you have with using the eq client the only difference is you can add zones instead of replacing them but you still have to do all the modeling work and everything else so really all you get in the end is the same result as you get when you add custom zones to your eq client.

I fail to see how people can make a truly custom game that gets away from SOE stuff with out being able to truly customize the client.

[LordRathgil]

I mean really think about it. Keeping it closed up is jsut basicly making it another SOE client that people cant do what they want with to make something truly unique anyone using it will just endup with a customized carbon copy of everyone else that uses it.

I know I for one wouldnt waste my time using something that cant be changed adequately, some people might want to replace the graphics engine for their game, others might want to change the opcodes and add features that are custom to their servers, some might want to remove features.

Keeping it closed up takes all those options out of the mix. Heck some people might want to add encryption specific to their server and login system to it. its just i dunno a waste of WC's time and vision if you want to limit people using it the same way that they are limited with the eq client, its like a total waste of his time and work, Imean he worked his butt off for 4.5 years according to the posts on this to give people the change to make something truly unique and now your saying they shouldnt be able to truly make something unique because of them cheating?

[Richardo]

Scorpious is right, however... There's ways around it. Require server ops to distribute their own version of the client that is not opensource. For example:


I run server (REVENGE OF AOREKAEPROKROTHERIOAS [PVP]).

My RoA compiled client will have a special ID (that cannot be changed considering it's in the binaries). The server will check the ID and if it does not match what I have specified, it will not connect. And there you go...

[LordRathgil]

still wont stop people from cheating the source of the eq client has never gotten out and look at macroquest heck look at eqemu. The point here is thatif people want to cheat they will find away whether they have the source or not.

[LordRathgil]

however richardos idea is a good one like for instance i had planned on adding encryption specific to my server into it. but the thing is like i said without the source all it is is another eq client just not from soe if people cant truly customize it theres no point to using it over the eq client

[LordRathgil]

And lets not forget that simple client wont work on a normal eqemu server it doesnt work with any of the base eq zones anyway so there is no real threat to the community as a whole anyway, therefore as such taking the chance of people cheating should be left to the server ops taht use the software not to other people imo

[Richardo]

Well, that was actually my whole point. Using SC as the main client rather than using EQ at all.