Discipline tomes turn in?

[joligario]

Is it all tomes and all GMs? Or just specific ones or specific GMs?

[ChaosSlayer]

to be honest i only tried a single tome. but i tried like 3 ranger GMs in surefallglide... i will try some other tomes today and see if peprpas the tome was broken

[ChaosSlayer]

well the problem is with my tome of sprint discipline.

basicly its a Berserker tome, but i made it ranger useable in oth Bleh/Ala spell editor and the tome item itself. And it should have worked.

However I also made a zerker made him lev 61 - and tried to turn it in- the zerker GM also returns it back

tecnicly nothing should have been hard coded - its supose to work just like a spell....

[joligario]

That's part of why I was asking, because I have seen other posts about certain tomes not working. Berserker tomes as a matter of fact. I am not sure if it is already known about that tome or not.

[ChaosSlayer]

well as I said the tome shoudl work just liek spells - the toem in quetsion nto even anythign fancy- ist a simply Move Speed buff for 18 seconds.
You could mimic this effect with a customly created spell (of course the only problem that pure melees do not have spell books)
But overall its not something that needs to be hardcoded to work. If it is- its wrogn implementation approach on devs part- the Disciplines should treated just like spells for all practical purposes.

Well I gues I will go copy and mutalate some WORKING tome and see what happens

Oh yeah- the non zerker specific tmes (shared with other classes) work just fine - like fearless

[ChaosSlayer]

Ok i did some experimenting and I have SUCCESEFULY given monk and zerker only disciplines to a Ranger =)

apparently the problem arises when on the tome itself the useable classes do not match up with useable classes set in spell properties.

So you can give/create any disciplines to any class - this opens a whole new range of redesigning pure melee classes who usualy not teribly fun to play (yeah hit auto-attack and mayby a kick every 30 seconds)

Now the important thign I need to ask about, from what I know each discipline has a reuse timer. The timer is unique in such way that unlike spells, the reuse timer applies to all disciplines at once- not just the one you just used.
So if Fearless has 30 min reuse time and Stonewall has 1 hour, you just used trueshot, you won't be able to use fearless for an hour - in other words they block each other off.

BUT it appears that SOME disciplines do not overlap. My ranger was able to use Trueshot, and then immidiatly use Fearless.

is that a glitch or some diusciplines can be used wihout waiting for previous timer to expire?

Please if have more info on this- specialy people who played melee classes on LIVE and used disciplines,- please post what you know

thanks ! =)

[laxative]

Chaos,

This topic is of particular interest to me, and I would like to know how you got around the same barricade that I ran into.

I gave my paladin defensive, and it's the CLIENT that rejects the discipline.

The effect fires, I get the you assume stance message, and the very next tick the client kills the effect. (you resume normal stance)

Based on what I'm inferring here that if your client spells_us.txt matches up with what the spell database data info is it's going to work?

I would have sworn I did all that but it's worth another look since you seem to be confident in your success.

Thanks