OOC Regen Enable/Disable

[Andrew80k]

PC OOC regen on live is done like so:

Take total mana pool and divide it by 30. That gives you three minutes to go to full mana from 0. There are 30 "ticks" in 3 minutes. Nice thing is it scales based on the size of the mana pool.

[ChaosSlayer]

Trev, for players you would prabobly need to check if player is on any mob hate list.

Andrew80k, 3 min for any player of any lev to get to FM is bad imho, it would be better for gameplay if high lev player ooc downtime would stil be greater than for low lev player. But I guess if we figure out player occ regen at all, the rules can handle the rest

[Andrew80k]

Chaos, I think you'd be surprised at how long 3 minutes is in game. But indeed a rule for that would handle it. It's just a matter of figuring out the formula and applying the rule.

[ChaosSlayer]

Originally Posted by Andrew80k

Chaos, I think you'd be surprised at how long 3 minutes is in game. But indeed a rule for that would handle it. It's just a matter of figuring out the formula and applying the rule.

considering that i used to sit on my but for 15-20 min back on live -3 min gona be a breeze =)

i havent played on eq1 when they implemented OCC regen, but on EQ2 under lev 5 you regenerate from almost 0 (hp and mana) to full in about 30 seconds, but it starts to slow down as you level (the numbers of hp and mana pool on eq2 are MUCH larger however. My lev 35 druid had like 2k hp and 4k mana and that was considered poor). I think at lev 80 it takes like 10 min.
But thats what hp/mn regene foods are for
ANorher thing that on eq2 there is no meditation (not during combat not ever) all classes melee or caster all regen hp and mana at same rate in and out of combat (not counting buffs and items of course)

[trevius]

Woah, they put OOC regen on live? LOL, they might actually be getting smarter :P

Either way, with the rule, you will be able to easily turn it on or off, or adjust the rate you want them to regen at. By setting the rule to 1, you would regen 1% per tick. So, if you wanted to regen from 0 to full in 3 minutes, you would just take 180/6 = 30, so 30 ticks, and if you set your rules to 3 (3 X 30 = 90), it would be pretty close to 3 minutes to regen full HPs or Mana. I think it is nice to have the option to enable/disable and increase/decrease the OOC Regen rates.

As for the code to check if they are engaged, I see in command.cpp from the latest SVN that it uses:

c->IsEngaged()

To check something with Feign Death (I don't have the code handy right now to post the exact line).

I tried using something like that, but I don't know how to define "c" properly. I think if I could figure out how to do that, that it should probably work. Maybe something like this:

	if(c->IsEngaged())
		oochpregen = 0;
	else
		oochpregen += GetMaxHP() * RuleI(Character, OOCHPRegen) / 100;

I think that looks about right, but I would need someone to help me to define "c" so that it worked like it does in command.cpp. I am still a noob lol.

[ChaosSlayer]

Originally Posted by trevius

Woah, they put OOC regen on live? LOL, they might actually be getting smarter :P

Either way, with the rule, you will be able to easily turn it on or off, or adjust the rate you want them to regen at. By setting the rule to 1, you would regen 1% per tick. So, if you wanted to regen from 0 to full in 3 minutes, you would just take 180/6 = 30, so 30 ticks, and if you set your rules to 3 (3 X 30 = 90), it would be pretty close to 3 minutes to regen full HPs or Mana. I think it is nice to have the option to enable/disable and increase/decrease the OOC Regen rates.

yeah they added it 1 or 2 expansiosn ago (after Aniversary package i think)

Note important thing to allow a rule to set diffirent scaling for OCC regen, cuase just setting it at % rate would make OOC regen identical (in time) for all levels and all mana pools.
where my originaly proposed formula 5+level would slow down as you go up, to leave some room to force people to buy potions (which is good for economy)

another good thing would be be a rule to turn OFF meditation =)
The logical reason for this that if you have OOC regen, then casters also havign bonsu from meditation will get MASSIVE and unfair advantage over melees (specialy since in Emu you don't need to sit down to meditate - which means all the time figth goes on- you still meditating at full speed)

[trevius]

It took me a while to figure out how to make a good scaling system that will work on any server no matter what the maximum level is, but I think I finally got it.

I edited the code in my post above and added the new level scaling code into it. Now, if someone can tell me how to check if the character is out of combat, I think we can get this in and tested and into the SVN right away

I wasn't originally planning to use it on my server, but now I think it could actually be pretty cool. So, I will at least try it out and see how players like it. Just need that out of combat check to finalize it

The way the scaling works is you set this rule:

RuleI(Character, OOCRegenLevelScale)

in the rule_values table to be anything from 0 to 100. Then, this is an idea of what will happen:

0 = OOC Regen Level Scaling is disabled - OOC Regen will default to whatever the rules are set to
1 = Barely any OOC Regen Level Scaling - This wouldn't hardly be noticeable if at all for any level
50 = At level 1, the HPs would regen at almost exactly the rate that the OOCRegen rules are set to. At max level, they would regen at 50% of that rate
100 = Most extreme scaling to where max level almost gives no OOC regen bonus at all, but at level 1 they get almost exactly the full OOCRegen rates. And in the middle, they would get about 50% of the regen rates.

I think this leaves alot of options to adjust OOC regen for almost any server. The only other way to break it down any better would be to make individual level range settings for it, but I really don't think that is necessary.