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Originally Posted by image

VPS servers are a big security risk just fyi

common missconception brought on by those who have no clue how Linux works dedicateds and vps have the same holes if you have no clue how operate them. I run a vps3 and have for 2 years not one security issue. a vps is just a mini dedicated server for a cheaper price. noone has access to any of your resources and files except you and 1and1 techsupport officials.

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Originally Posted by fault

common missconception brought on by those who have no clue how Linux works dedicateds and vps have the same holes if you have no clue how operate them. I run a vps3 and have for 2 years not one security issue. a vps is just a mini dedicated server for a cheaper price. noone has access to any of your resources and files except you and 1and1 techsupport officials.

Even if that is your belief there is still CPU restrictions since you are using 'part' of the system. It is shared memory throughout the system and you can't even try to compare a seperate dedicated server to a VPS.

PS. just because someone hasn't gone after you doesn't mean it can't happen. It means no one cares about your VPS.

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Originally Posted by image

Even if that is your belief there is still CPU restrictions since you are using 'part' of the system. It is shared memory throughout the system and you can't even try to compare a seperate dedicated server to a VPS.

PS. just because someone hasn't gone after you doesn't mean it can't happen. It means no one cares about your VPS.

not true the memory in the full system may be shared, but you get your Guaranteed amount. you are Guaranteed 1gig always and have bursts of up to 4

and cpu restrictions? 1and1 imposes none everyone gets fair share. I have also never seen more then 2 clients on a single 1and1 VPS I am sure the dual core AMD cpus can handle what you throw at it. for heavens sake Ive had antrix, eAthena, and EQemu all running on it at the same time No speed issues no lag nothing.

Sure i can compare it, using both types i can say for the price vps' outweigh dedicateds at every step.

and again please donot get caught up in the vps is a security risk mythology, vps only have the same risks as any type of service it is up to you the user to secure it.


if this sounds rude, it isnt dont take it as such if you do I apologize. but from experience VPS > dedicated for the cost with no real speed or security decrease. you can pay 60 a month for a vps or 200+ for a dedicated with the same setup with no real difference except how it is hosted

[devn00b]

Originally Posted by fault

not true the memory in the full system may be shared, but you get your Guaranteed amount. you are Guaranteed 1gig always and have bursts of up to 4

and cpu restrictions? 1and1 imposes none everyone gets fair share. I have also never seen more then 2 clients on a single 1and1 VPS I am sure the dual core AMD cpus can handle what you throw at it. for heavens sake Ive had antrix, eAthena, and EQemu all running on it at the same time No speed issues no lag nothing.

Sure i can compare it, using both types i can say for the price vps' outweigh dedicateds at every step.

and again please donot get caught up in the vps is a security risk mythology, vps only have the same risks as any type of service it is up to you the user to secure it.


if this sounds rude, it isnt dont take it as such if you do I apologize. but from experience VPS > dedicated for the cost with no real speed or security decrease. you can pay 60 a month for a vps or 200+ for a dedicated with the same setup with no real difference except how it is hosted

The vps you had on there was serving a 100K+ user forums, a loginserver, a LARGE wiki? That's going to be a lot of active connections, and cpu usage. Reguardless of what you say VPS systems are never a fully secure option. anything that gets shared can be cracked. Just matters how badly you want to.

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Originally Posted by devn00b

The vps you had on there was serving a 100K+ user forums, a loginserver, a LARGE wiki? That's going to be a lot of active connections, and cpu usage. Reguardless of what you say VPS systems are never a fully secure option. anything that gets shared can be cracked. Just matters how badly you want to.

yes it did. I said I ran three emulators on it at the same time, the ragnarok server had 700 constant connects on the server with over 100 thousand registered users in the forums which ran vbulletin. the wow server had another 100 online with about 500 registered users on the forums.



I never saw cpu usage over 60% nor memory usage over my dedicated 1gig.

and if you secure your operating system install there is no risk, trust me I know I have PAID people who were known to be able to get into anything to test what I was using they couldn't. there was this guy who rampaged ragnarok online servers getting into the dedis and vps' destroying everything he took a crack at mine and couldnt, after two days the most he was able to do was register 500 thousand accounts simultaniously on a phpBB install I had.

I wouldnt open my mouth if I didnt first experience this such as these myself.


lets leave this topic to what its intentions were, I figured i'd throw kim a suggestion, it is kims choice to go with whatever kim feels is appropriate, i do not wish to argue.