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Old 04-10-2010, 12:25 AM
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I play on Eqtitan and while there are some pathing issues in 10% of ferubi, the other 90% is well done and playable. But without it being in the game you cant correct it and the eqtitan coders are madmen right now and are making some incredible content. The rest of the released GoD content released is on par with all the pop stuff on Peq. So dont assume because Peq doesnt have it, doesnt mean the other servers content isnt quality. Eqtitan also fixed beastlord doubleattack in its first week while in the 2 years i played peq, was never touched...

Peq is a great standard to judge but its not the only server that is developing incredible content.

Outside of that, Peq is ok but I stay at Eqtitan because its hardware and stability and even the content currently is better.

Our coder isnt as famous as CD but he is incredibly talented and it shows everyday with the improvements that are made daily.

This isnt a bash Peq post, i have all the respect in the world for what cd and the server have done and been for me but.. like i said they are the measure in which all others will be judged, where better or for worse.
That GoD content is mostly ours (PEQ's.) Just because it isn't open on PEQ doesn't mean it isn't ready to be played. It's on par with PoP because Angelox, Jaekob, myself, and other members of the team all had a hand in developing it. Funny I didn't see our names mentioned.

That double attack fix you're using? Is here: http://www.projecteq.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9726 I've put it on PEQ, but it won't go into the SVN. Why? No offense to Reno (who is a talented and key member of the EQEmu community) but it isn't the correct way to do it. It's a temporary fix. In fact, I read your changelog, all the code you have "fixed" can either be found on the EQEmu or PEQ forums, but have not been added to the SVN because it doesn't meet our quality standards for whatever reason. Your developers didn't fix any thing, others on the forums did and I did not see any of their names mentioned.

The reason I am making this post? I am sick and tired of leeches making claim to work done by others and not giving a single damn thing back to the community. Your server does both. Not to mention you hijack posts that have nothing to do with you. The original poster asked about PEQ, not EQLeech. I can't believe you had the balls to ask for green status.

Edit: Removed the attack on raid choice. That was more a flame than an opinion and I apologize for that. The rest stays though.

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Old 04-10-2010, 02:04 AM
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1. didnt mean to hijack, the 2 posts before my first one was the only thing i was commenting on. The subject of the post kinda swayed to content and not so much PeQ.

2. I'm not a programmer, i dont know who does what. All i know is what works and the God content on some of the other servers does work and works pretty well given how new it is. Your code or not... it works (that was the only point)

3. Cavedude, you've always been cool with me. Really not sure why this is such a sensitive issue.

Someone said things get put out without being polished or playable, while i agree that there is need for polishing in a few zones released. Thats the whole point of this whole project isnt it.

I never once meant to not give credit to all you guys. Pretty sure i gave you guys props all day long in my posts. People are going to build upon your work, they are going to have the same hobbies and interests as you guys. They may even be really good at it; we gonna assume they are all leechs because they benefit from the foundations which you guys laid?

Green status?

This is my last post as its unnecessary to continue. Take 2 things from my post.

Sorry for the unintended hijack and you guys have given tremendous gifts to this project.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:59 AM
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People are going to build upon your work, they are going to have the same hobbies and interests as you guys. They may even be really good at it; we gonna assume they are all leechs because they benefit from the foundations which you guys laid?
PEQ has a database readily available for everyone. They're continuing to take submissions from the community, and because one person wants to make improvements without contributing back to the project... that just seems unreasonable to me.

I'm not saying everything should be open-source, but if you are using content and building content on the same goals that PEQ lives by, you should at least submit content to PEQ and help them out instead of making your own closed database project.

As for communities, you are entitled to make your own community, it's just frowned upon deeply when you take and take and take and never give back to the community that helped you get your database populated for the most part.

As for me? I personally don't contribute my custom content back to PEQ because it doesn't fit the live-like goals of ProjectEQ, and EQEmu for that matter. They would have no need for it, and it wouldn't be accepted into SVN. That's why I made my own googlecode page with my own code and merge what I feel is needed. And that way, they can check my page and say, "Oh, Secrets did it that way, that's a better way to code that than I did! Let's use it.", not "Oh, I'm totally gonna steal that idea from Secrets! I hate that rival coding project!"

It's just when two people are doing the same work for different projects and those two projects don't share with each other is when I, and likely many others, get upset. I hope I don't come off as aggressive, but that's how I feel.
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Old 04-10-2010, 08:34 AM
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dragos56: My post was entirely directed at the server's developers. The hijack I was more concerned with was the second post by EqTitan. I used your post to reply as a jumping off point to touch on some subjects. If you have nothing to do with the server other than as a player, then I wholeheartedly apologize for the confusion.
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