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Old 08-30-2010, 10:39 PM
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For what it's worth, on the subject of choosing to either restore on a new server from a backup, or wait for the most up to date data, I'm in favor of the latter. This is purely selfish though , as I don't relish camping Phinny for the last piece of the mage epic another few weeks (just finally got the staff the night before the crash, and he is a 3 day spawn). I suspect others are in the same position though. Plus any recent data from the crash might help troubleshoot what the issue is.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:34 AM
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For what it's worth, on the subject of choosing to either restore on a new server from a backup
Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:09 AM
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Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.
What are you talking about? What changes? The server is down, dude. There aren't any changes going on.
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:50 AM
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What are you talking about? What changes? The server is down, dude. There aren't any changes going on.
People were claiming a few posts up that the server was reset but it still doesn't boot which would infer that something was changed to prevent PEQ from loading.

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now im pretty sure a request was made days ago and the server has been restarted. .
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:11 AM
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People were claiming a few posts up that the server was reset but it still doesn't boot which would infer that something was changed to prevent PEQ from loading.
Clearly you know nothing of systems administration, or much about computers in general. There are plenty of reasons why a system might not boot properly after a problem that has nothing to do with changes being made to the system.

And ultimately, that person's statement was merely a guess. There is no evidence to suggest his guess is correct. In fact, there is some limited evidence to the contrary. Best I can tell, the server has not been rebooted yet. But that is still a guess based upon very limited evidence.

And, assuming I am correct and the server has not yet been rebooted, no, I do not know why not. But before certain people get into a tissy fit about this, consider that since the evidence is very limited one way or the other, the system may have been rebooted and simply still not be responding for reasons unknown.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:46 AM
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Clearly you know nothing of systems administration, or much about computers in general.
Wtf dude, you should probably stop the assumptions then.

You also just made 2 posts that completely contradict each other. I posted the following:

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Since the server is still down, I'm guessing Cavedude sent an email to FNW about the server and FNW never bothered to read it and nobody ever called the hosting company for reset.....that would be my best guess.

and you post

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You'd be wrong, but that's ok.
Then you completely reverse your story a few posts later and say exactly the same thing I said?!?!??

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Best I can tell, the server has not been rebooted yet. But that is still a guess based upon very limited evidence.

And, assuming I am correct and the server has not yet been rebooted, no, I do not know why not.
wtf?
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:15 PM
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I said the server has not been rebooted as far as I can tell. I also stated that what you said in the following quote was incorrect:

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Since the server is still down, I'm guessing Cavedude sent an email to FNW about the server and FNW never bothered to read it and nobody ever called the hosting company for reset.....that would be my best guess.
How do my two statements conflict with each other? Apparently you are unable to see that FNW could have been informed and responded so we know he is aware of the problem, but at the same time the server has not yet been rebooted. Your statement said FNW probably had not read an email and the hosting company had not been called. But we got a response from FNW so we know he was aware of the problem. This shows that your statement that you think cavedude merely sent an email to FNW and FNW had not yet read it was wrong.

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Then you completely reverse your story a few posts later and say exactly the same thing I said?!?!??
There is a difference between the server not being rebooted and people not being informed that the server needs to be rebooted. Your statement above (first quote in this message) says you do not believe people at the hosting company were informed. My statement says the server was not rebooted. The two are not discussing the same thing.

Based upon your logic, asking someone to do something is exactly the same as it having been done. Those of us with children know that is often not the case

In any case, I'm getting very tired of your attitude. You appear to only be here to cause trouble and be negative. So far, your posts have all been speculation without any evidence. They have all been very negative and at best have been questioning how things have been handled. At worst, they have, for all intents and purposes, accused the devs of incompetence. I have yet to see a single post you have made in this thread that was of any use to anyone.

Apparently you are so frustrated with being unable to play on PEQ that you feel you should try to make life miserable for those who are putting their time and effort in to providing you a game to play at no cost to you. I am politely asking you to stop now, before my patience runs out.

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Old 08-31-2010, 02:30 PM
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I don't have any attitude, you tried to claim I'm some kind of idiot that doesn't know anything about computers.
Either you do not know much about computers or you leap to conclusions. To wit:

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People were claiming a few posts up that the server was reset but it still doesn't boot which would infer that something was changed to prevent PEQ from loading.
First of all, a system being reset but not coming backup after a crash is not unusual, even without changes to the system. You either do not know this or chose to ignore it as you originally took a possible failed reboot as much more than just an inference of changes, but instead as fact, as shown by:

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Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.
So ultimately, either you do not know enough about computers, or, even with the appropriate knowledge of computers, you are choosing to ignore that and pick a single possible cause and attack the developers over that possibility.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:42 PM
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Please for the love of god, no more experimental "I wonder if this will work" changes till FNW stops hosting it.
That was more of a joke than anything. I dunno why you would get mad at that.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:47 PM
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For what it's worth, on the subject of choosing to either restore on a new server from a backup, or wait for the most up to date data, I'm in favor of the latter. This is purely selfish though , as I don't relish camping Phinny for the last piece of the mage epic another few weeks (just finally got the staff the night before the crash, and he is a 3 day spawn). I suspect others are in the same position though. Plus any recent data from the crash might help troubleshoot what the issue is.
phinny is a 12 hour spawn
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