Classic or era-based server content

provocating · #1 10-04-2015, 09:45 AM

I am pretty sure the Magelo issue has to lie with multiple items dropping off of creatures. Magelo drop rates do not show quantities so if a Crag Spider drops 8 silks, that would be a 800% drop rate on that one drop. I do not think Magelo's website ever shows above 100%

AdrianD · #2 10-04-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by provocating

I am pretty sure the Magelo issue has to lie with multiple items dropping off of creatures. Magelo drop rates do not show quantities so if a Crag Spider drops 8 silks, that would be a 800% drop rate on that one drop. I do not think Magelo's website ever shows above 100%

It seems that lootdrop.ids were added along with existing one when this was done. There are several columns in `loottable_entries` and `lootdrop_entries` which control this. <chance, multiplier, mindrop, probability> all of these combined create an environment that when you kill `a_large_rat` you get twelve items.

provocating · #3 10-04-2015, 10:04 AM

I do not think you understood what I was saying. Look at...

http://eq.magelo.com/npc/7155

See the spider shows it drops silk 85% of the time? What the emulator would translate that to is dropping 1 silk 85% of the time. I am not sure how the Magelo import routine works but I would think it could possibly get the percentages right on multiples. A Crag spider can possibly drop up to 8 silks. It may be 15% with an 8x multiplier, but it is possible.

AdrianD · #4 10-04-2015, 10:19 AM

I've never looked at magelo grabs so perhaps I misunderstood you.

I know what I see in the DB though. A multiplier value was assigned somehow.

As far as crag spiders specifically: they have dropped large numbers of silks since back in PoP days if not earlier, I'm unsure exactly how far back

AdrianD · #5 10-04-2015, 10:25 AM

If you have virgin ears, click out of this thread...

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A snippet from a convo I had recently regarding this general issue:

I seem to be met on many sides by people unwilling.

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On database work, it would probably be good to just use a central database with the PeqEditor and give everyone access to make changes. Maybe some type of log sheet for people to sign with a small description on the changes they made that day.

Sounds good. Although, I like the structure of git with a master and branches. For example: Adrian has table x1,y1,z1 in his branch, <soandso> has x2,y2,z2 and these can be combined or chosen separately as a more complete data set to Master xm,ym,zm.

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If you want something enough and are passionate about it you can also get it done on your own.

Agreed

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I have had mainly negative comments about my servers since I started. You have to push past all of the negative comments and just run with it.

Those people should go away. Fucked up to say that to someone in your "community." I've seen some of the comments made in your direction. Fucked up people.

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You cannot develop a server in a vacuum, also you do not need to rely on other developers to get your job done.

Agreed

My comments: I can't say this enough... Why on earth would someone want to do this more than once?! It's tedious, boring - I'd rather pull my fingernails out than know you are editing the same exact DB entry with virtually the same new data. It's fucking stupid man!

I am not going to spend 5 years of my free time to repeat what someone else has done but is too stubborn or stingy to share, when what they have was shared with them. It contradicts everything about why this EMU started.

I hear you on all that other stuff but this is the bottom line for me. <above

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Egos abound!

provocating · #6 10-04-2015, 02:55 PM

I am "egobound" ? Not hardly.

You wanted to start this project, you started the thread, not me.

That entire PM, was sent you you in confidence. There again I do not send anything in a PM that I would be ashamed of. You are definitely not going about this endeavor of yours in a fashion that would encourage people to help you.

Several PM's you sent me were pretty narcissistic but I will not post these here in a public forum. Good luck on your project, I definitely will not be contributing to it. You are showing your true colors.

And yes you have to do it yourself. As I said before I have been faced with much negativity on my project but I stick to my guns on what I want. I put in countless hours of GM'ing, server maintenance, bug reports. I am not going to stop what I am doing to help you. No one stopped what they were doing to help me. As I said my server comes first above everything else except my day job.

AdrianD · #7 10-04-2015, 08:32 PM

Image: I read it.

I'm not concerned about credit. I'm not concerned about having a live server. Having players to play with on a somewhat regular basis would be nice.

I'm not talking about a commitment that isn't already being done or has been done. Backtrack, the only commitment I am talking about is to continue towards the overall goal which seems to be a similar thread.

For example: Participants put the data somewhere. People take and use the data, maybe refine it. Much like how this project works. It's really not complicated or a large commitment beyond what people are doing already.

It's sharing and improving, simple.

Provocating: I was not talking about you and I was not thinking of any single person, specifically. Until you said something, the average onlooker wouldn't know the difference. And what's the big deal on that? I don't give a shit what is posted here if I said it. I've been a silly happy camper here and you know what, I don't talk or act this way. I'm trying to be nice/disarming so the general public will be more willing to help. SMH