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08-25-2004, 05:28 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 15
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Originally Posted by fnemo
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Originally Posted by Melwin
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
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aren't you a moderator ? this was (wxhat devnoob said) was mostly for remaining devs... which you aren't
so don't laught at him. you are a moderator |
What does my being forum enforcer have anything to do with my freedom to laugh at him?
He's trying to threaten his way back on the devteam. That's just plain hilarious.
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08-25-2004, 05:33 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Going to put this in a separate reply.
Since you seem to be implying I am using EQemu money or some kind of scheming to further WR, fnemo, I ask you to answer this quick little quiz:
1) Which server was constantly advertised in the news part of the emulator itself?
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) Koolkat's Non-Legit Server
2) Which server was hyped up, garnered tons of posts in general, and was all-in-all displayed all over the EQemu site.
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) slow server (don't log in!)
3) Which server was in essence, entirely run by developers and had GM access to every developer.
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) Pie in the Sky server
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08-25-2004, 05:47 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 354
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Originally Posted by Wiz
Going to put this in a separate reply.
Since you seem to be implying I am using EQemu money or some kind of scheming to further WR, fnemo, I ask you to answer this quick little quiz:
1) Which server was constantly advertised in the news part of the emulator itself?
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) Koolkat's Non-Legit Server
2) Which server was hyped up, garnered tons of posts in general, and was all-in-all displayed all over the EQemu site.
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) slow server (don't log in!)
3) Which server was in essence, entirely run by developers and had GM access to every developer.
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) Pie in the Sky server
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1) GW (more devs implicated ... but GW source is implemented in the general one)
2) GW & WR (same comment as precedent + for WR it was inderectly)
3) GW (but once again, same comment)
and 3rd answer explain fully the presence of GW for the 2 others...
but that dont involve the cash flow
you were "alone" to pay you said .... so you work with donations
they were several to pay ...
for my own, I pay 350 Euro/month to host my servers (including old Alkora's SQL + world/zones which became another project)
and for now, I pay alone .... because I made this choice. And If I'm in red, I wont cry about it .... i'll take it for me and find a solution. But this is totally transparent for people.
The fact is, GW's cash was transparent (nobody know about it except owners).
You told about yours ... and the red light then you are on green one.... quite fast
Thats normal for me (like many others but I'm the only one to ask ...) "why ?"
The other thing, a (long) while ago, we know who paid (and donate) for what, how much ... on this project. Now .... we do know nothing ... :evil:
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08-25-2004, 05:55 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Originally Posted by fnemo
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Originally Posted by Wiz
Going to put this in a separate reply.
Since you seem to be implying I am using EQemu money or some kind of scheming to further WR, fnemo, I ask you to answer this quick little quiz:
1) Which server was constantly advertised in the news part of the emulator itself?
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) Koolkat's Non-Legit Server
2) Which server was hyped up, garnered tons of posts in general, and was all-in-all displayed all over the EQemu site.
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) slow server (don't log in!)
3) Which server was in essence, entirely run by developers and had GM access to every developer.
1) WR
2) Guildwars
3) Pie in the Sky server
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1) GW (more devs implicated ... but GW source is implemented in the general one)
2) GW & WR (same comment as precedent + for WR it was inderectly)
3) GW (but once again, same comment)
and 3rd answer explain fully the presence of GW for the 2 others...
but that dont involve the cash flow
you were "alone" to pay you said .... so you work with donations
they were several to pay ...
for my own, I pay 350 Euro/month to host my servers (including old Alkora's SQL + world/zones which became another project)
and for now, I pay alone .... because I made this choice. And If I'm in red, I wont cry about it .... i'll take it for me and find a solution. But this is totally transparent for people.
The fact is, GW's cash was transparent (nobody know about it except owners).
You told about yours ... and the red light then you are on green one.... quite fast
Thats normal for me (like many others but I'm the only one to ask ...) "why ?"
The other thing, a (long) while ago, we know who paid (and donate) for what, how much ... on this project. Now .... we do know nothing ... :evil: |
Yeah, okay. It's immoral to ask for donations to pay for server hardware when you provide a server. Do you even listen to yourself? You're being a complete jacktard.
I'm just asking which server has a pattern of being promoted as EQemu's "main" server by the server admins. If you're going to accuse me of embezzling funds, you better have something to back up those shitty little claims, because you are being a massive grandfucking hypocrite (remember that about NO PROOF NO ACCUSATION? you said).
You want to know why I'm in the green again? Because my players read that and signed up for subscriptions. Is that so incredibly hard to understand?
I invite you to pull out proof that I have somehow been embezzling funds, since that seems to be the only reason you'd even bring WR into this, being that it's utterly and completely unrelated, assuming it's not just a case of jealousy because I happen to run the most popular server.
*gg*
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08-25-2004, 06:00 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 354
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who said it was immoral ? I said the way you did it is suspicious .... There is a huge gap between those 2 words ...
another thing, being the main server for eqemu ... hmmm i remember time with merth, just after hogie left .... who did it ? you ? nope, me ! so dont use this argument !
I'm not hypocryte. I'm not accusating ... I wonder and say my questions openly ! That's all. Now, if for you it's accusation ... not my fault.
Something to hide ? :lol: 
What I mean is, the way you generaly act is .... way to suspicious for me. That's the point.
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08-25-2004, 06:03 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Originally Posted by fnemo
who said it was immoral ? I said the way you did it is suspicious .... There is a huge gap between those 2 words ...
another thing, being the main server for eqemu ... hmmm i remember time with merth, just after hogie left .... who did it ? you ? nope, me ! so dont use this argument !
I'm not hypocryte. I'm not accusating ... I wonder and say my questions openly ! That's all. Now, if for you it's accusation ... not my fault.
Something to hide ? :lol:
What I mean is, the way you generaly act is .... way to suspicious for me. That's the point. |
I see. So I'm suspicious because I ask for donations and get them.
You really don't have a lot going on up there, do you?
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08-25-2004, 06:08 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 354
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Originally Posted by Wiz
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Originally Posted by fnemo
who said it was immoral ? I said the way you did it is suspicious .... There is a huge gap between those 2 words ...
another thing, being the main server for eqemu ... hmmm i remember time with merth, just after hogie left .... who did it ? you ? nope, me ! so dont use this argument !
I'm not hypocryte. I'm not accusating ... I wonder and say my questions openly ! That's all. Now, if for you it's accusation ... not my fault.
Something to hide ? :lol:
What I mean is, the way you generaly act is .... way to suspicious for me. That's the point. |
I see. So I'm suspicious because I ask for donations and get them.
You really don't have a lot going on up there, do you? |
If I had time right now (which I dont since I have to go to work), I answer... But, I think its better to not ...
because you only answer/read/whatever, what you want to ...
On this, I say, good evening guys, time for me to work...
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08-25-2004, 06:12 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Here's my paypal statements since the announcement of the defecit (Aug 13th):
Aug. 13, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 13, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 13, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 13, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Cancelled Details ... ... ...
Aug. 14, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 14, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 14, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 15, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 15, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 15, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 15, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 16, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 16, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 17, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 19, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
Aug. 21, 2004 Subscription Creation From [name editted out] Active Details ... ... ...
That's besides loose payments.
Boy, those $110 extra per month came outta nowhere.
Also, for the information of your "suspicious" little ass, I footed the bill for the server for a very long time before we moved to a $350/month server to accomondate growing popularity.
*Edit: Real names editted out
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08-25-2004, 06:12 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Heaven.
Posts: 1,260
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Originally Posted by fnemo
What I mean is, the way you generaly act is .... way to suspicious for me. That's the point.
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Premature assumptions should not influence senseless accusations.
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08-25-2004, 06:12 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Originally Posted by fnemo
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Originally Posted by Wiz
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Originally Posted by fnemo
who said it was immoral ? I said the way you did it is suspicious .... There is a huge gap between those 2 words ...
another thing, being the main server for eqemu ... hmmm i remember time with merth, just after hogie left .... who did it ? you ? nope, me ! so dont use this argument !
I'm not hypocryte. I'm not accusating ... I wonder and say my questions openly ! That's all. Now, if for you it's accusation ... not my fault.
Something to hide ? :lol:
What I mean is, the way you generaly act is .... way to suspicious for me. That's the point. |
I see. So I'm suspicious because I ask for donations and get them.
You really don't have a lot going on up there, do you? |
If I had time right now (which I dont since I have to go to work), I answer... But, I think its better to not ...
because you only answer/read/whatever, what you want to ...
On this, I say, good evening guys, time for me to work... |
Amazing. That would make two of us.
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08-25-2004, 09:23 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 16
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Lol watch it fnemo.. going against some people on here will guarantee you a ban from this forum and community.. even if what you say is true.. or not.. fact is.. noone will ever know what is true.. again.. i say.. just close the source.. and all this will go away once and for all.. 
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08-25-2004, 09:34 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 16
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[quote="killspree"]Hi patreecia...you seem new. I'll clue you in on something: Wiz has been around a long time too, perhaps you're the one that should look for a bit of respect when speaking to people.
who cares?? i personally dont like wiz.. and if he left there wouldnt be no love lost at all.. his attitude and his constant lying about money that he gets on his server..
contributions? what did he contribute actually? that hasnt been already thought of from other devs? .. this project would definately go on without him staying or him leaving.. but yanno.. we all have the right to H8te who we want and like or dislike..
but to powertrip an older person just because.. of whatever reason.. well kinda sensless.. read above post i made..
stop the madness and just close the project..
If we all cant get along then its far time we should pack it up and just go.. like im ready to do.. buhbye :P
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08-25-2004, 09:39 AM
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If we all cant get along then its far time we should pack it up and just go.. like im ready to do.. buhbye
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How about you leave since you hate it here so much?
At this point right now there is very few people saying "close the project" or "you suxxors!!11!!!!"
Practice what you people preach, you want them to be more respectfull you be more respectfull, you want the flames to stop, stop flameing. come on people show some maturity.
And before I get called a powa trippen Dev, im a Moderatior, and I think the Devs needs to grow up too, however after dealing with the jerks on these forums I dont blame them for most of there attitudes.
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08-25-2004, 09:39 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 15
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Originally Posted by fataldelay
Lol watch it fnemo.. going against some people on here will guarantee you a ban from this forum and community.. even if what you say is true.. or not.. fact is.. noone will ever know what is true.. again.. i say.. just close the source.. and all this will go away once and for all.. |
The people who would ban you for going against them were recently removed, actually.
And yeah, that's some asinine arguments even I won't bother debunking, and that's saying a lot.
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08-25-2004, 09:54 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 776
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Originally Posted by fataldelay
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Originally Posted by killspree
Hi patreecia...you seem new. I'll clue you in on something: Wiz has been around a long time too, perhaps you're the one that should look for a bit of respect when speaking to people.
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who cares?? i personally dont like wiz.. and if he left there wouldnt be no love lost at all.. his attitude and his constant lying about money that he gets on his server..
contributions? what did he contribute actually? that hasnt been already thought of from other devs? .. this project would definately go on without him staying or him leaving.. but yanno.. we all have the right to H8te who we want and like or dislike..
but to powertrip an older person just because.. of whatever reason.. well kinda sensless.. read above post i made..
stop the madness and just close the project..
If we all cant get along then its far time we should pack it up and just go.. like im ready to do.. buhbye :P |
...I'm going to guess you haven't been around very long either. What has wiz contributed? Well for one, he contributed mob pathing code, he also contributed additions to the old quest formet, as well as some loot code changes(I believe), among other things. You can see a list of what he's done in one of his posts above, but suffice to say you don't really have much of a clue if you think he's done nothing.
Like someone or not, if they contribute to the project it's rude to make things up like saying they haven't done anything.
And while we're on the subject, fataldelay, what have you contributed?
I have nothing against image or devn00b, but saying something like wiz hasn't done anything is baseless and stupid.
And learn how to quote if you're going to do it...I had to edit my post to fix a quote yours screwed up. Thanks.
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