Patching Alternatives - Page 2

Dr Zauis · #1 02-23-2006, 05:10 AM

One thing good about using titanium is that EQ is stopped in its tracks from all the Krazy "advancements" being made.(like the wonderful ui LOL)
Too bad it wasnt done or wasnt able to be done with one of these classic versions I keep reading about that everone who has played for many years seems to be enthralled with. I feel Ive missed something really good and now its far too late to experience it.

I voted to keep it like it is but really how I feel is that whatever Father Nitwit and the other Devs want to do and feel they are having fun doing it is OK with me.
I dont think trying to increase population base is good reason myself..Sounds too much like commercialism and what Sony is trying to do.

Im not really interested in freeloaders. I dont think thats what this is about.
Let Sony deal with em.

arovin · #2 02-24-2006, 05:21 AM

Seems to me that it would hinder the community at first as everyone would need to pickup titanium if the servers the played on moved to that version. But in the long run the community might be better for it as new members would be able to join and the devs would not need to spend time trying to keep up with live and just focus on 100% on making a better emulator that just worked with that version.

Sure there would still be requests for the files but they could be responded to with an answer of go buy the CDs instead of sorry we can't help you.

tallerin · #3 02-24-2006, 09:34 AM

I like the idea of makeing eqemu compatible with titanium. The way i see it you can't please everyone. There is always going to be someone that does not like the way it was done regardless of the decision.

therealjjj77 · #4 07-01-2006, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Zauis

One thing good about using titanium is that EQ is stopped in its tracks from all the Krazy "advancements" being made.(like the wonderful ui LOL)

The UI can be changed by pressing Alt+W, clicking options, go to the display tab, and then select UIs and select classic(or whatever it's called)UI. I also hate the new one but it's a quick change that can stay permanent on each character you make it on.

Avaran · #5 07-20-2006, 08:51 AM

I think of it this way....

EQ Titanium is easy to get. 20 bucks for all those expansions isn't a problem for me.

The install discs of EQ Titanium come with expansions far beyond Luclin, which is what we currently have running on our emulators. With the exception of a few POP and LOY zones that people have created here and there.

Should the DEVs stick with Titanium, I think we have enough content to fix and build to last us at least another few years... any expansions or patches that EQ puts into the game we usually don't even like. Let's be honest, at this point the content that Sony is putting into the game isn't very interesting, it's just to sell more games.

I think we should stick with Titanium, I know it's what me and my friends would all like to see. Just getting AAs to work would be nice. Let's stop chasing that latest patch and branch out on our own

-Av

EliteSting · #6 02-24-2006, 04:29 PM

IMO , having a standard that is legally available to everyone would be the route to go. Granted , yes there's going to be the idiot posters that want to just download the files and go with it. Heck I'm surprised nobody has asked for an .exe file that does everything for you. >.< Having something that is available without "breaking the law" would also open the doors to alot more people that are willing to contribute to the development of the emu. Yes , dedicated individuals that will really help out on a project are few and far between , but in the long run I can see it as more of a blessing then a hinderance. Just my 2 cents.

Angelox · #7 05-31-2006, 05:56 AM

I'm not here because it's free, I'm here because I don't have to worry about "patch days" and all the other constant fixes, updates/add-on's SOE does. I liked the game when it started out - then Kunark was ok and a few of the others, but then it all just got to be too much too soon, and too overwhelming. I even had posts in the Sony forums begging them for a classic server - that was before i founf this site.
I'm really impressed with all that's been done here - I never thought anyone would get so far advanced with an EQ Emulator. When I first started here, the subject on the emails to my friends about EQEmu was; "The Ultimate Emulator" - I've been into emulators since the old BBS days - and EQEmu is up at the top of my list now.
Needless to say, Titanium was a "blessing" for me, and no one should complain about 20.00 dollars it costs, if they ever played EQ Live for 15.00 a month.

Eljier · #8 03-16-2006, 06:31 PM

For those who do not know Titanium is the most complete install released to date from SOE. Once you install the CD's there are no downloads or patches for the game. Until the new expansion release anyway. To have all expansions except the newest in one complete install is like working from a backup that was never updated. There would be more people involved in EQemu since all you need is a titanium install and a emu server to access. I say #ell yes. I am so sick of paying SOE for 3 accounts, just to have them NERF everything on you. I would like to say thanks to all the people involved with the development of the EQemu, please keep plugin away!!!!

#9 03-24-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eljier

For those who do not know Titanium is the most complete install released to date from SOE. Once you install the CD's there are no downloads or patches for the game. Until the new expansion release anyway. To have all expansions except the newest in one complete install is like working from a backup that was never updated. There would be more people involved in EQemu since all you need is a titanium install and a emu server to access. I say #ell yes. I am so sick of paying SOE for 3 accounts, just to have them NERF everything on you. I would like to say thanks to all the people involved with the development of the EQemu, please keep plugin away!!!!

This *may* have been true when it was first made in the factory, but the very first day it was sold in the stores there was still huge downloads due to SOE patching.

klinzhai · #10 04-01-2006, 06:56 AM

I just wanted to put in my 2 cents again.

I think that there would be a lot more support for EQemu if there was a way to actually get the files. It's a world of difference between going and getting a CD that was distributed in the stores and installing the game and trying to find some location that has the patch files from a relatively arbitrary date. I know a good 20+ people who would happily buy and install Titanium if they knew that they could play on any emulator server after that. I'm sure that there are a number of places out there to get the patch files, but it's not that easy to find them (I've looked, but I'm not going to burn hour upon hour searching) as opposed to going to the store to buy the discs. Also, even if I did find the files, then I'd have to burn it to a DVD so that I could get the files over to my friends. If we could simply use the Titanium CDs, it would be a world of difference, since I'm sure there are thousands and thousands of copies of the CDs out there right now and you can still buy the CDs today. Kind of like the Kunark CDs... I know a good dozen people who still have copies of their Kunark CDs. I'm about 99% sure that I don't know anyone with a compatible set of files for the EQ Emulator.

I honestly think that the relative lack of activity in the community (compared to some other emulator communities like UO or even WoW) is because of the difficulty in acquiring a working client. While a good number of people could care less if there were an easier way to get a working client, I think that there would be a lot more tools available, from quest creation tools and mob creation tools to even possibly zone creation tools for people who want to make their own zones. I wouldn't be suprised if there were some of these tools out there already, but I think that the quality of them would possibly go up with a more active community.

In short, having a 'release' version to use for the client could only help the community. There would be zero downfalls and while there might be some people who would still whine about not being able to get the files, their justification for saying they can't get a widely available distribution would be vanishingly small.

johane · #11 04-02-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eljier

For those who do not know Titanium is the most complete install released to date from SOE. Once you install the CD's there are no downloads or patches for the game. Until the new expansion release anyway. To have all expansions except the newest in one complete install is like working from a backup that was never updated. There would be more people involved in EQemu since all you need is a titanium install and a emu server to access. I say #ell yes. I am so sick of paying SOE for 3 accounts, just to have them NERF everything on you. I would like to say thanks to all the people involved with the development of the EQemu, please keep plugin away!!!!

So you are saying that unlike every other disk SOE has released this one works, out of the box without any patching?

I'd have thought that if the disks were broken (like in evolution, or velious or kunark) then it'd be useless for eqemu purposes.

#12 04-02-2006, 10:37 PM

No, he was 100% wrong, it DOES patch.

Never the less it is very complete.

johane · #13 04-02-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mattmeck

No, he was 100% wrong, it DOES patch.

Never the less it is very complete.

OK, so my stupid question is:

What evidence is there that Titanium can run properly against any version of eqemu ever? i.e. How can one be certain that the client on the disks isnt broken in some very fundamental way that totally precludes it ever being better than x% running with an emulator?

#14 04-02-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by johane

OK, so my stupid question is:

What evidence is there that Titanium can run properly against any version of eqemu ever? i.e. How can one be certain that the client on the disks isnt broken in some very fundamental way that totally precludes it ever being better than x% running with an emulator?

The fact the Devs are going to recreate the EMU from scratch to work with it. (if its decided to go that way)

viviAngel · #15 06-11-2006, 03:20 PM

Hi! i really think that you should stay with Titanium and try to make it better and solve the bugs. Anyway, the databases are far behind, so in a way, it's useless for now to try to catch live. Everyone can buy Titanium, so making this version better is the best way to make most people (and me) happy

Great work by the way!!