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Old 12-17-2002, 07:07 AM
Atma
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Tell me about hard times in IT. I got laid off from Cisco Systems in April 2001. I'm STILL looking for work. And I have gotten over the (once upon a time ago) ridiculous concept of taking a job that pays less than 1/2 of what I was making. Nothing quite like being downwardly mobile. Now if I could only get an INTERVIEW on one of those jobs!

And what was once a comfortable retirement portfolio - well, it's worth less than $400. Than you Bernie Ebbers, you rotten scum bag - may you burn in hell for all eternity! (Former CEO of Worldcom for those who were wondering.)

But even though times are tight, for now, I am lucky enough to still be drawing unemployment. So, I have made a small contribution. I hate to equate making a donation for operating expenses to paying for EQ live, lest it raise an eyebrow or two at Sony, but EQEMU is a bargain at any amount.

Much has been posted about how wonderful the Dev's are to keep the project going. And they are, I stand in awe and wonder at the coding skills, since I have none. But let's not forget there are other parts which make projects FUNCTION. And one of those is Cash.

Thank you for all you have done, Hogie.
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Old 12-17-2002, 08:58 AM
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The problem in IT is a matter of expectations.. Salaries went through the roof in the late 90's with the dotcom bust, and every compsci grad on the planet EXPECTED 60k or more a year on graduation. All these little dotcom companies brimming with venture capital sucked up all the people could, got them use to a higher lifestyle, then collapsed leaving them with a lexus payment and 300k house to pay for with have the salary expectation. I was really lucky in that I picked well as far as where to go, but I saw it happen to alot of people. (I am in no way comparing Cisco to a dotcom btw).

My funds portfolio still looks really strong, but I invested in mutual funds rather than specific stocks so I took alot less of a hit, even on my aggressive portfolios. The biggest hit I took was Lucent (22.00 when I bought, floating around 1.50 right now).

It is a hard time, thats for sure. Daily I'm thankful that my company hasnt laid off anyone, and plans to make sure it doesnt happen, and that kind of employee loyalty goes a long way. I left IBM for exactly that reason, theyre 1st reponse to any market situation was to shed resources...

Good luck though, and Im donating my part too, giving up a Promise RAID controller and a bit of cash to help Hogie out. Its been a tough time for everyone.
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Old 12-17-2002, 11:41 AM
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I wish I was old enough to have a savings. I have already lost a car, and Im kinda back on my feet, but with a $1700 transmission which is pulling $250 out of my checks now before I even cash them, Im kinda struggling. We will get through it. I am going to update the donation list now, as we got 2 donations today since I left for work
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Old 12-17-2002, 05:02 PM
just_add_water
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money away!
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Old 12-18-2002, 02:48 AM
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The thing I like, when I get out of college, all computer science jobs will expect prior experience, can't get job experience if you cant get a job, can ya?
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Old 12-18-2002, 07:37 AM
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Sure you can, you just can't start out at $60k/yr right out of college, you have to be the Network Gopher Boy (tm) for a while first
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Old 12-18-2002, 07:41 AM
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Working on a project like EQEmu is prior experience Make a portfolio before that job interview with samples of what you've done.

I'm still in college myself, but that's what I do when I need some cash to eat or pay rent (college is fun on that respect) and want a small project job, even if they say they want experience working so and so years.

I graduate this coming semester with my CS degree, but going to stay in college and get a master's or two.

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On a side note, I'm not extremely involved, but I love the project and wish I had time to be involved with the programming side. I wish I could help you guys but like everyone else I struggle along too for now :( Scholarships are expiring, loans building up, and all that fun stuff. Perhaps in another 6 months when I start my master's program I can join in the fun in development
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Old 12-18-2002, 12:21 PM
impalerspawn
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I will be paying off my truck in a few months and will be building a hella nice server. Eventualy I will be hosting a nice server/login. If you guys still need help at that time.
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Old 12-19-2002, 01:32 AM
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Guys , im gonna donate a server. Hang tight until I can get it together.
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Old 12-19-2002, 05:26 AM
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Please email me at cjunky@geek.com so we can get info on what you are sending ManJones
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Old 12-19-2002, 10:46 AM
rawhunger
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I can't believe this...

Boy have I been away from EQ for a long time...

Now people are building their own world servers! *LOL*

I'm almost amused enough by this to send you some money to help. This is just too wild....
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Old 12-19-2002, 11:36 AM
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Ah, but you dont understand. It isn't for a "world" server, it is for the backbone of the project. When you login to eqlogin*.eqemu.net , you are hitting this machine. Also all our development versions are on this machine, not anywhere else
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Old 12-19-2002, 05:23 PM
Ferrall
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Default Take care of the project...

Money away via orinthical@yahoo.com

Not much but now that I have your paypal account id... Jus' Keep it going.
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Old 12-23-2002, 02:37 AM
Arcalyn
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Default This might help dunno?

I got this email, dunno if its useable by you guys but had to pass it on.
Now I haven't checked it out myself yet(at work)

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Old 12-23-2002, 02:43 AM
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That's good and all, but we need a dedicated box like we have now (We actually run 4 databases for our backend and all tools). As for the 5GB of transfers, we do about 10 - 15 a month, so it would be little help to us.
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