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03-03-2003, 02:25 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Georgia, USA
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Not that I care if they ban my account, the main reason being I don't HAVE an EQ Live account. Anyhow, the EULA is crap...it says nothing about "I agree to sell my soul and give everything I have to SOE" It would cost them more to bring you to court then it would to just let this project go on. Okay...so a good number of people lay EQ Live and EQEmu...so they're still making their $15 a month from them, why the hell would they care? It makes no sense to bring ANYONE to court for playing an emulation of their servers....besides, it's the software that's protected by law, not the servers.
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03-03-2003, 02:26 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Don't blame them indivudually guys, they get paid to do a job, just like most of us do. If my boss walked over to me and said , 'Go out and find the employees that are goofing off, or not abiding by the rules and report it back to me', then i dont think i'd have much choice. You do what you get paid to do, whether you like it or not, so don't villianize those guys for doing what they're told to do.
On that note, this is the stupidest round of paranoia I've seen swim through here in a long time.
Now if they're doing it just to be pricks, well then, thats another story..LOL...
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03-03-2003, 02:30 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Shortly after the Planes of Power leak we were posted pretty much everywhere, I noticed we had some people from sony addresses surfing our forums, I posted a nice announcement to tell them to leave the boards, then I banned the ips. If I ever see them on here I don't let them stay, they have no reason to read our posts.
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03-03-2003, 02:32 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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here is my 2cp on this.
ELUA cant be a binding contract. as proven in court and upheld by the US supreme court. (Feel free to look it up if you realy wanna know).
For a contract to be binding there has to be a verbal or written contract. Clicking i accept does not constitute a legal contract. because there is nothing verbal or signed.
Soe couldnt sue, EQEMU hasnt damaged them in any way, lol sit in irc for a bit and alot of people come in saying " ive never played eq but i bought the game just to play eqemu ".
thats how i see it...
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03-03-2003, 02:32 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Georgia, USA
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Bah, what do they care what we're doing anyway. We're not really taking any business away from them anyway. Those of us like me who don't have an EQLive account...I wouldn't pay for one anyhow, so it's not like EQEmu gives me a reason to not pay for EQ Live...I just wouldn't play if this place didn't exist.
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03-03-2003, 03:48 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Area 51
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No disrespect was intended. I have the highest regard for Windcatcher. What I thought was funny, was the very idea of some shriveled up, bespecticled old gnome, laying in wait here on the boards watching for someone stupid enough to reveal thier eqlive information.
I'm old enough now, that not much about human nature suprises me much anymore, but I would be slightly shocked to find out that someone actually did this.
Anyway, It conjured up a rather silly and ridiculous image in my mind. I apologies if I offended WindCatcher.
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03-03-2003, 04:42 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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NP. I have a thick skin 
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03-04-2003, 01:52 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 12
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I'm afraid with the staff supporting the, "Hey dudes! Play EQ for FREE!!!" type of mentality ; it's just asking for trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if Verant took some sort of strict legal action against the dev team. It would suck, but tecnically it sounds like they are in rights too if the intent is to simply create free EQ servers. I always thought the intent was to make fun servers in which users could just shit around have fun. Not create mock server based PC societies like those present in EQlive. I know I certainly don't have time for that type of crap =P.
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03-04-2003, 03:03 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Okay! JUST STFU! if you dont want to play EqEmu why are you here? just shut up! why do you want to know if they will get sued? STFU! its not your business! :twisted: now..........lemme get to my question  .........is there a DAoC emu out there?? i play EqEmu and was wondering if theres a DAoCeMU
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03-04-2003, 03:26 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I'm locking this thread as its degenerating...
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03-04-2003, 04:37 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trumpcard
I'm locking this thread as its degenerating...
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Sorry, I just had to post this so they know Trump.
I have indeed gotten banned from 2 live accounts because of the EMU. I have lost a 59 bard and a 56 monk on live. This is only because I host the website. It really came to a head when the PoP beta was released and we were linked, they were threatening me via emails to take the site down, but they wouldn't unban my accounts, so I told them I only wanted to talk to their lawyers from now on. I haven't heard a thing from them since.
I will tell you this, I use to be a live GM (as in, a Sony Employee in San Diego). I wasn't there for long, but they dont care what you do as long as you dont talk about it on live. They are able to view everything you type in game (it is call /sniff), they automatically catch certain words in logs (such as death threat phrases and such). They didn't actively go after account sellers on ebay, they didn't actively go after showeq users.
Brenlo (Alan Crosby, who is now Head GM) said: "..there is no way to detect showeq, and we really dont care about them. Just do whatever you think if they admit to using it...."
This was when I was training under him. I personally am not scared of sony. What are they going to do, sue me? That doesn't mean much when a person has no money anyway. It isn't like I'll have jail time for it (as it is not a criminal case).
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