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08-19-2004, 04:08 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Good to hear that it does in fact build with cygwin 
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08-19-2004, 08:47 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Heaven.
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I'm a little confused on this issue. Is FreakU supposed to be an EQClient Clone, but same zones, spell effects, UI, etc?
I think that creating a client with just the same zones but different UI, spell effects and game essentials like that would basically take the eq out of eqemu.
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08-19-2004, 10:08 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,177
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the purpose of freaku is to make a client that doesnt suck ass.
a xml type skin system would be nice. but well.... i could care less, i'd just like a client that doesnt crash on me and i dont have to worry about breaking my eqemu
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08-19-2004, 10:38 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: France, Bordeaux.
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Is FreakU supposed to be an EQClient Clone
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I really hope Freaku wont be an EQClient clone /poke Daeken.
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I think that creating a client with just the same zones but different UI, spell effects and game essentials like that would basically take the eq out of eqemu.
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You dont need freaku to "take eq out of eqemu", this is easily handable with actual eqclient. But yes, it will make things way easier, but all of this is already possible with actual eqclient.
I was thinking of it today, and i realised one thing, doing the graphic engine of Freaku will be a small part, because there are a TONS of others things in client that are hardcoded, and it will need to be recoded in freaku (which i find dumb), or integrated to eqemu code ...
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08-19-2004, 11:01 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Cisyouc, I think the major thing FreakU will offer above the EQClient is a truly custom world over what we can currently do now. There are many limitations due to client hardcoding that are a pain to bypass, if some are even possible at all. FreakU would(most likely) allow for fully custom zones with unique file names, instead of having to replace current zones with a new mesh, etc.
This probably takes the EQ out of EQEMu for you, and with good reason. However, I for one am definitely looking forward to it, because it provides a new level of customization for the "hardcore custom" servers which want to provide fresh new zones and content for their players to experience.
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08-19-2004, 11:57 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 47
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EQ is SOE's custom version of an EQEMu server :P
There's much chance however that the first working freakU client uses a lot of current game design and ui (not to say ... files). The easier the better imho.
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08-20-2004, 02:41 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chambersburg, PA
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The initial versions of FreakU will use EQ's files until we replace them with our own. The goal is that we can eventually replace them completely, and document as we go so that people can replace them as they want.
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08-20-2004, 04:45 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Heaven.
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Originally Posted by sotonin
a xml type skin system would be nice. but well.... i could care less, i'd just like a client that doesnt crash on me and i dont have to worry about breaking my eqemu
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I didn't mean the skin system I just mean the skin appearance itself.
Eh, I dunno. Im on the fence about this whole thing, if we loose some of the essentials like the UI or the spell effects (just examples), we aren't Emulating EverQuest really. We're just using the zones such as Windcatcher allows us to import Quake 3 maps, lol.
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08-20-2004, 07:33 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,177
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You stick with the sony client then, ill use the freaku. thx =)
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08-20-2004, 09:06 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chambersburg, PA
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But the main thing is that we will have the UI and spell effects and such. We will have every feature from EQ with the possibility of adding more.
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09-02-2004, 08:21 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Drunk tank
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The best thing imo about Freak is that we could give it out.. No more "how do I get warez?" from newbs. If made properly, could use opcodes from any generation server, so would be universal..
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09-03-2004, 01:04 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chambersburg, PA
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My hope is that we don't have to worry about various versions, simply because we can make our own variations on the EQ protocol as we see fit. But that's a while in the future...
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09-03-2004, 07:57 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,177
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Incorrect. We could give out the basic client "framework" but we would still not be able to distibute any of the content. .s3d or anything like that. sony still owns them
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09-04-2004, 09:33 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 47
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hmm, there are now good tools for building custom zones :p
Go, go, daeken_bb !
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09-04-2004, 11:27 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,693
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We can legally pass out WC's custom zones. If we have our own client and server, eqemu is then 99% OS, free as in speech, free as in beer, with maybe just the loginserver closed source.
They didn't patent .s3d file formats.
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