cole got banned?

[Aonelyn]

and to think i got warned for chewing him out lol.


Thank god.

[mattmeck]

I will bet you $1,000,000.00 That he is still here under at least 3 other names, and will start his crap again eventually....

[Aonelyn]

I don't doubt it, I called him out on a post about an old loginserver awhile back, and yeah he's an idiot.

Welcome back matt.

[quadroplex]

It's kind of interesting he gets banned for "Starting his shit", and yet you people just can't let a sleeping dog lie?

Was there a reason for bringing it up again, or is eqemulator.net just a breeding ground for drama anyway?

[quadroplex]

I am just saying everyone keeps saying "he started this and that". Yet all I saw was people basicly harrassing the guy every time he posted, then when he had enough after two years of it, he got banned. Now you are still stirring the pot, as it were, so I submit the question...

Who was really at fault and deserving of a ban?

I mean let's be fair here, Everytime the guy posted he was berated, insulted, flamed, and accused of being other people, when in actual point, more often then not he was attempting to be helpful

Stupid 5 min. editing rule lol

[trevius]

Trust us Quadro (assuming you aren't cole coming back already), this guy was the number 1 source of all drama on these forums for years. He has been banned more than anyone and is an extremely shady person. He might act like he is trying to be helpful some of the time, but as soon as something goes wrong, he loses his temper and blows up like a ticking time-bomb. He has tried to ruin the reputation of almost every respectable member of this community. If he can't find enough information on someone, or any rumors on them, he will just make stuff up out of nowhere to start drama.

If you really want to read up on the situation, check the link below and read my last post in that thread (the really big one). But, I am warning you now that every minute you read about this guy will be a minute of your life you will wish you had back. You should just listen to us and understand that he is a jerk.

But, here is the post:

http://www.eqemulator.net/forums/sho...450#post148450

LOL, even after he is gone the debates continue. No doubt in my mind he will be back as Mattmeck already stated. So, no reason to let people forget who he is. His character is so flawed that it will be easy to identify him when he does come back. He will type like a 5 year old and scream like 1 too. And of course, he will talk about his precious source that is his alone, even though probably 95% of it was written by someone else. And, don't forget how he will also talk shit about every dev and admin in this community, especially Mattmeck. He really hates Mattmeck lol! Probably cause Mattmeck has banned him 1000 times.

There is plenty more to the story, just know that there were reasons for people replying the way that they did.

I hate to drag this thing on and I hate drama, but he is sure to be back and certainly isn't going to change. Ahh well.

[quadroplex]

Well ok here we go...

1) It is his source so he did have ever right to say that it would never be released.

2) All I see is people CLAIMING he is someone, with no real proof that he actually is, and well that would be more then enough to piss anyone off... Constantly being accused of something? Yeah I would have to say that would be enough to get anyone riled.

3) It is interesting that a person with a join date of what, 2006? Is said to be banned so many times, and yet noone banned his two year old account? That alone seems a bit odd to me.

4) I read the posts about the guy people claim he is as well, when they posted links to the posts, the typing styles are completely different, so that is another strike against the theory, that they are infact the same person.

5) There are rules on this forum, everyone must accept them upon registration, and yet at the same time the administration lets the flame fests, go on against him for days at a time. The only person who gets consequences is him. That would be another thing that would more then likely tick a guy off enough to blow up after 2 years.

6) Once again aside from a FORMER Administrator's word which (A) I dont know this FORMER admin (B) I don't trust anyones word when there is accusations present unless there is PROOF of the accusation... There is NO proof that this guy ever came in under different names or is the guy he is accused of being. Why would he need to if his TWO year old account WASNT banned?

In closing there is a golden rule to live by, Treat others as you would have them treat you... Now Just what do you expect a person to do when he is constantly hounded, accused, targeted, attacked, flamed, insulted and so on and so forth? Just lie back and take it?

A really simple way to find out if he IS the person is to Attempt to get both into a video and voice chat at once, but that would more then likely only serve to prove the assumptions about him incorrect. So the real question is...

If they aren't the same person who is a big enough person to admit they are wrong?

[quadroplex]

Ugh this editing rule just sucks sometimes LMAO.

By proof I mean, indesputable, 100% Factual, irrefutable proof. I just wanted everyone to be clear on what I mean. Just because someone THINKS a thing is true from their own point of view. Does not make it fact (people believed for thousands of years the world was flat... We all know how that turned out)

All I am saying here is that the very people complaining of his (or her either way) actions here (rumors, flaming, destroying reputations) Are also the very people who did the very same thing to this person, without any factual data to backup their accusations.

So in all Fairness, they should all also be banned, since they did the same things to him that he got banned for doing to others.

All I am saying here is that this is a serious case of, the pot calling the kettle black, and before people sit in judgement of anyone they should first try sitting in judgement of THEMSELVES.

IMHO none of you are any better then he or she was, for you all have been doing the very things you complain about him doing to him.

[trevius]

LOL, quadro, just give it time, you will see. Just know that you have been warned. This guy has stabbed everyone in the back that has ever dealt with him. Most of the important posts that show who he is and show the issues he has caused have all been either deleted or moved to the admin only section of the forums, so unfortunately, I can't link those for you to see.

Cole has single handedly caused at least 2 or more administrators/mods/devs to leave. He has also called out almost every single important person on this project. He is also the sole cause for the user groups and star system to be removed from the forums.

As for the typing styles in the linked posts, I compared them in depth and found many many similarities. I think the main problem with matching his typing technique is the lack of consistency. Sometimes he uses a capital "I" and sometimes lowercase when referring to himself. Sometimes he spells words one way and sometimes another. But, he loves to capitalize certain words or phrases. I am not sure why you think they aren't similar.

As for verifying who is who, anyone who has administered on a forums knows that you can see the IP address of anyone who posts. It is pretty easy to just compare the IPs of each account's posts and see if the IPs match to prove that they are using multiple accounts to post under.

As for the 2006 account, that is no big deal. I probably have 5 or 6 myself. When he has gotten banned in the past, only a couple were on his 2006 accounts. The others were all on accounts that he made and then got immediately banned, made another, then banned, another, banned etc etc etc, since he was trying to post the same thing over and over and over and it was against the rules since it linked to a site with porn images on it... But, that is how he is. He throws a tantrum and gets to upset that he is willing to make anyone and everyone miserable at his own expense. I guess he just thinks he's special and likes the attention.

If you can't see already, I have a huge problem with this guy. It is nothing he did personally to me. It is everything I have seen him do and cause throughout his time here. If this project was to ever cave, I have no doubt that it would be mostly due to Cole. And, I refuse to let that happen...

Unfortunately, Cole claimed to be dealing with doodman who is the main guy in charge of the login server source. My guess is that he wants to get in tight with doodman and then stab him in the back enough to make him shut the whole thing down. Then, Cole will expect everyone to come crying to him to run what he calls "his" login server, even though it is just old code someone else wrote. I refuse to let any of this happen. I am fine with the project the way it is now and anyone who wants to ruin it deserves everything they get.

And just so you know, I heavily believe in the "do unto others" policy. Feel free to read every single one of my posts other than ones related to Cole and you will see that they are all as helpful and professional as I can possibly be. It takes quite a bit to get me to dislike someone. You can also read my forums, Zeb forums, and EZ forums and you will see the same there as well. The only time I show anything but respect, and friendlyness is on my own forums when I have someone who has been caught cheating and was banned. And even in those cases, they are kept in PMs to keep the forums as positive as possible. My server and forums both have a rule against causing drama of any kind. Unfortunately, in some cases it just can't be avoided.

Also, feel free to do a search for all of Cole's posts and see how friendly they all are... Most of the time if multiple good people all point at 1 problem person, then there really is a problem...

[quadroplex]

Ips are no proof of anything with as many anonymous proxies that are available for anyone to use, just by adding the ip address to their internet explorer or firefox or any other browsers settings, it is quite simple and possible to have people with the same IP Address anywhere in the world.

I said irrefutable proof, that means something like pictures of both people, voices on voice chat, video chat location information not based on an IP Address... Anything to actually prove beyond a shadow of a doubt they are the same person.

Ive never seen any post of cole claiming the loginserver was his only, that he got it working and compiling.

Typing styles, well that is a simple one, most people type like they sign their names, similarity is not being the same that means they are similar, in the same way that you can have two signatures that appear to be similar but are infact two totally different people signing their name.

I would probably do the same thing he did by yanking his programs if i recieved the same treatment, noone wants to contribute to people who attack them constantly.

I Saw in the post you linked where you basicly accused him of making a password sniffer with no proof that was actually the case merely because he was him not because of any valid reasoning, I also saw you claim that you would drop the issue if a dev signed off that it was safe and you didnt to that either. So lets be fair you are not without some measure of blame.

Again it is all rumor and assumption, and reputation bashing with no real proof of anything you accuse him of.

And before people start claiming I am him, let me just tell you that one I do not know the person, two I am defending him because, one he has no voice with which to defend himself here any longer... And two because noone needs to be bashed behind their back or to their face.

You keep saying it was all him, it was all of you. None of you are without blame in any of it, just look at this very thread. He is gone and you are still attacking him...

And to the administration of these forums and site and project... Why have these people not recieved disciplinary actions right along with him? It takes two to tango, and all are just as much to blame as this person.

Is it because these people are in some way special and above the rules which govern everyone and they too had to agree to upon registration? There has to be some reason why they have not been punnished for their roles in all of this.

[Angelox]

quadroplex/cole/and all your others -

I don't need an ip to know it's you! You're just a Troll and we keep you alive.




Don't Feed the Troll!

[eddie1981]

LOL and you just proved quad's point I think...

It is always funny to see someone say something, and then see someone prove the point so quickly.

Seems to me that people are just looking for a patsy here, and are extremely paranoid accusing everyone of being him now. In all honesty you need to get lives, if this person is this important to you then you need some serious help.

[quadroplex]

Yes, here we go more reputation trashing with no proof just the assumption word of some, angry ignorant person who is now trying to trash my reputation, because cole is gone.

I do however agree with eddie, you need to get lives, and seek help if this cole is so important that you cant just let it go. It speaks a great deal about the maturity level of those posting in this thread, that they cant leave well enough alone.

[Cripp]

lol ya we just need to ignore him and continue to ban any fools that show up on the boards whether its cole or not

PS: im closing this thread because that bastard doesn't deserve all this attention