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Old 09-14-2003, 12:41 PM
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this topic/subject is like SOOOOOO last week
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:31 PM
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ya...this topic had been going on forever
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Old 09-14-2003, 04:52 PM
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Hey, just download movies; not songs. lol
The MPAA has jumped on board :( Not sure what the letters stand for, but they are doing the same as RIAA, but doing movies instead.
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Old 09-14-2003, 05:30 PM
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Old 09-14-2003, 05:38 PM
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i never had kazaa THERES NO PROOF!! well maybe somewhere there is...
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Old 09-14-2003, 05:55 PM
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/burns everything to disk
/reformats HD 5 times


i didnt do nothing
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Old 09-14-2003, 09:53 PM
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Lol ia m not saying it is good or bad. Half of the files you get off of kazaa is crap. When i dwonloaded music from kazaa if i liked it i would go a buy it on CD. Kinda like a free sample......

Here is a good quest:
If you own the CD and it has 2 or 3 really good songs on it
is it still bad if you download just the 3 songs?


Lol the law is the law i am just unsure about the 1 part
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Old 09-15-2003, 02:12 AM
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I just broke the 5,500 mark for .mp3's. And I'm on 56k. So a good amount of my time is spent downloading them. Usually 10 a day.

Kazaa Lite/Soulseek seem to be the best to use, especially now that Lite has an option to turn off IP ranges that come from the RIAA.

Ethically, do I know it's wrong? Sure. I wouldn't want someone ripping off my work without authorization.

Do I sincerely care? Not really.

I doubt I've downloaded much music that didn't already come from a band that has millions already. Which is more money than 95% of the world will ever have.

The day musicians/celebrities stop paying $30,000 for outfits they wear for one award's show, is the day I'll take interest in their whining for financial security.
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Old 09-15-2003, 10:52 AM
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Default My feelings exactly

I've been using P2P programs for almost a decade now, and yes, I know it's wrong. I know it's stealing. But I don't give a damn! These entertainers earn millions and millions of dollars every year, and for what? A good voice? A useless talent like acting? IMO all the money that is going to the entertainers are going down the drain. I'd much rather see scientists/researchers earn those millions, because they'd actually do something usefull with it. So until the day comes when they slash the salaries of football players, singers, etc., I feel no moral obligation towards those who are getting ripped off.
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Old 09-15-2003, 12:54 PM
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Default Don't worry... If the RIAA doesn't stop you... TCPA will...

For those who have only been following the RIAA and their constant struggle in grabbing common computer users IP's off the net.. It gets worse... the RIAA is not what you will be worring about in a year... worry about the TCPA and the "fritz chips" that will be in all your hardware components within the next year... Read about it hear http://www.againsttcpa.com/tcpa-faq-en.html

Just my opinion.. Its scary...
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Old 09-16-2003, 09:25 AM
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thats some scary shit. well, look at it this way folks, america was started from people running from a controlling government (religious control over england). They were rebels, and fought England to gain "freedom". 300 years later we have become originally what we ran from. With laws that exist which are meant purely to tell people how to live their lives (for ex: drug policy, piracy, anti abortion ect...) and the citizens of the US having no say in any of the laws ( which would make more sense if every law proposed was hosted in an annual national voting to see if the law passed, and a possibility to get it revoked with enough petitions), america's supposed "democracy" is nothing more than a hypocrytical load of crap. anyways, my point is, unless everyone in the country rallies together and starts another civil war, (which makes no sense how a country who was founded on rebellion has laws against rebellion) there will never be change. every way of life will be controlled by the christian ideals of family values. the only form of escape is to leave this crappy country. there are many other countries in the world who have logical govenments who honour civil rights and dont put the control of a nation in the hands of a few old white rich christian men. As for microsofts "fritz chip", microsoft can go to hell, because the day they put a big brother chip in my computer is the day they pry my tower from my cold dead hands.
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Old 09-16-2003, 10:05 AM
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Wonder if "I thought it was acceptable to DL songs, if its not than why does Everquest encourage its use with the recent addition of the MP3 player?? " is a decent argument

I'm Just insanely bored atm.
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Old 09-16-2003, 10:30 AM
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the problem with this "fritz chip" is that it takes away any freedom associated with the home computer (which is thier intention). But let's think about this for a sec. ALL teens across north america want a personal home computer for what? for homework??? i think not. it's to download music, pirate movies and programs, and rebel by giving big corporations the "middle finger". The problem is, if this chip does pull through, and there is no way around it, teenagers will no longer want a home computer. (except maybe to play computer games, but the games on playstation, x-box and game cube are currently more advanced). I think the industry is shooting themselves in the foot... If you want a solution, boycott microsoft and go HERE
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Old 09-16-2003, 11:09 AM
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yeah metallica sucks now. goto google and type in "fuck the riaa", a bunch of cool sites come up
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Old 12-09-2003, 01:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Memenerr
When i dwonloaded music from kazaa if i liked it i would go a buy it on CD. Kinda like a free sample......
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Originally Posted by XeroKrist
I just broke the 5,500 mark for .mp3's. And I'm on 56k. So a good amount of my time is spent downloading them.
Lol... you guys need to invest in a radio! At any rate, I live in a moderately sized US city and my public library has roughly 13,000 musical audio CDs, 4,000 dvds and 9,000 video-cassettes. You can borrow like 6 pieces of media at a time and you can locate, reserve, and renew any of them through the website. They will even shuttle them around in the bookmobile for you. Since the nearest library branch is closer to my home than the nearest Blockbuster and the library card is free, this is a pretty good deal for me.
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