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General::General Discussion General discussion about EverQuest(tm), EQEMu, and related topics.
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View Poll Results: How do you feel about EQ Titanium support?
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I would buy EQ Titanium if it worked with EQEmu.
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No way am I gunna spend $20 to play a game, But I'll find a torrent.
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LIVE OR BUST! Even if it means nothing ever gets fixed again.
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Im happy the way it is, keep fixing bugs.
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02-23-2006, 03:00 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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My opinion is that, while it will help some people who are willing to go buy it, EverQuest is not the most actively-pirated game, and lets face it, while many of us are not, many of the people here are just here for free everquest. There are still going to be people looking for titanium patches.
However. I do like the fact that the goal is to work on the pre-"all-these-unnecessary-revamps" client. In my opinion, I don't think we're any better moving to titanium than staying where we are now -- except that if we move, there will be alot of people who came for free everquest now without a client.
My 2 cents.
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02-23-2006, 03:05 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Originally Posted by Lordlemur
Second simply hardcode the loginserver.ini and the eqhost.txt into eq.exe. If it can't be edited, it's really not the big an issue for a game in the end of it's lifecycle, but it makes our lives very poor.
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I don't think this can be done. Why? I'm thinking the people who manage sony's domain names and servers are _completely_ different from the developers. If something goes down, they need to be able to change it and patch right away. Mayhaps not the best infrastructure, but.
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02-23-2006, 03:24 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 134
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in the last 6 years i have bought so many EQ CDs
i have a pretty good stack of um here,
back in dec. i bought the digital download of EQ plat
just before titanium came out. if i had to buy titanium to be able to play EQEmu
i would but, seeing i have so many already and it would just me giving sony more money, id much rather donate to eqemu and just use all the stuff ive bought already
i paied sony for a char transfer with items and a week after that my account was banned
contacting sony they said ther was to many duplicate items on server...
made no since at all to me except i was just scamed by sony for the 75 bucks
then i buy the digital download of eq plat giving sony even more money like a dumb ass, played for 18 of the 30 days it came with , and been hanging out on these forums ever since waiting for when i will be able to come back
if EQEmu caught up to live twice a year that would be great, or if the devs did it where everyone had to buy titanium fine id just like to come back to EQEmu
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02-23-2006, 05:10 AM
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I know how to fix that!
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Join Date: May 2005
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One thing good about using titanium is that EQ is stopped in its tracks from all the Krazy "advancements" being made.(like the wonderful ui LOL)
Too bad it wasnt done or wasnt able to be done with one of these classic versions I keep reading about that everone who has played for many years seems to be enthralled with. I feel Ive missed something really good and now its far too late to experience it.
I voted to keep it like it is but really how I feel is that whatever Father Nitwit and the other Devs want to do and feel they are having fun doing it is OK with me.
I dont think trying to increase population base is good reason myself..Sounds too much like commercialism and what Sony is trying to do.
Im not really interested in freeloaders. I dont think thats what this is about.
Let Sony deal with em.
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02-24-2006, 05:21 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Seems to me that it would hinder the community at first as everyone would need to pickup titanium if the servers the played on moved to that version. But in the long run the community might be better for it as new members would be able to join and the devs would not need to spend time trying to keep up with live and just focus on 100% on making a better emulator that just worked with that version.
Sure there would still be requests for the files but they could be responded to with an answer of go buy the CDs instead of sorry we can't help you.
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02-24-2006, 09:34 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I like the idea of makeing eqemu compatible with titanium. The way i see it you can't please everyone. There is always going to be someone that does not like the way it was done regardless of the decision.
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02-24-2006, 09:58 AM
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I know how to fix that!
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Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by tallerin
I like the idea of makeing eqemu compatible with titanium. The way i see it you can't please everyone. There is always going to be someone that does not like the way it was done regardless of the decision.
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So true! Thats why I say..Whatever FNW and Devs do is fine with me..As long as they feel they are enjoying themselves..
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02-24-2006, 11:10 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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I think allowing a version of the emu to work with a fresh cd install could be beneficial.
I do agree with those who claim illegal downloading may occur, but as also said, it's bound to happen anyway.
Doing this would potentially reduce the burden on the devs, since they wouldn't feel so pressured to try and stay compatible with live.
Another benefit, although somewhat selfish-sounding, is that some of us could be able to become more updated. I'm still running 0.6.0-DR2, because I hadn't patched when the emu was live-compatible.
Anyway, this could always be seen as a test - if it flops, then just do what had been done before (chase live), or if it works fine, then maybe update when either another expansion is released, or when the full game and most/all expansions are released as a set.
/* warning - completely off topic */
It's not all that important, but I've noticed that the bars on the voting results won't stay visible. The numbers still show, though. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.1
/* end off topic */
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02-24-2006, 04:29 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: May 2005
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IMO , having a standard that is legally available to everyone would be the route to go. Granted , yes there's going to be the idiot posters that want to just download the files and go with it. Heck I'm surprised nobody has asked for an .exe file that does everything for you. >.< Having something that is available without "breaking the law" would also open the doors to alot more people that are willing to contribute to the development of the emu. Yes , dedicated individuals that will really help out on a project are few and far between , but in the long run I can see it as more of a blessing then a hinderance. Just my 2 cents.
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02-24-2006, 06:05 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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I'd be for becoming titanium-compatible if it's possible. At least then, we have an actual box set we can point people to, hopefully for months to come, and say "go buy that and you'll be compatible." SOE wins on that too, since that hopefully means a few Titanium sales.
Mattmeck pointed out that sometimes they'll release a CD box set and quietly update the contents while calling it the same name -- ie, 2 months from now they might still sell "Titanium" but they now burn the CD's with that current patch instead of the patch that was on when they first started selling Titanium. If that's the case, then it might just be more problems for us (even moreso since somebody will have paid money for a product that won't work). If you are (reasonably) certain there won't be multiple Titanium versions, then I'm totally in favor of it.
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02-26-2006, 02:41 PM
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Demi-God
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Mattmeck pointed out that sometimes they'll release a CD box set and quietly update the contents while calling it the same name -- ie, 2 months from now they might still sell "Titanium" but they now burn the CD's with that current patch instead of the patch that was on when they first started selling Titanium. If that's the case, then it might just be more problems for us (even moreso since somebody will have paid money for a product that won't work). If you are (reasonably) certain there won't be multiple Titanium versions, then I'm totally in favor of it.
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That what i would say when i ask if titanium is usable...
(I hate my poor english !)
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02-27-2006, 03:08 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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I really like the idea of having a version of the EMU that would be compatible with the CD install of the Titanium Edition. The people that already have a compatible version that works with another version of the EMU would be fine, and people like me that have a client that is too old to work would finally be able to play.
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02-27-2006, 06:33 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Well, like you said, Sony freely distributes EQ, so why can't you?
What if you got a couple mirrors, and distributed the build that was needed for the emu?
I'm not sure that's entirely legal though, its just a suggestion.
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02-27-2006, 06:37 PM
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Demi-God
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Originally Posted by Shox
Well, like you said, Sony freely distributes EQ, so why can't you?
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AOL freely distributes the AOL client. If you ran an AOL server, theoretically, you'd get in serious trouble for distributing the AOL client for the purpose of being compatible with your AOL server.
If you said your AOL server works with such and such AOL CD's.. that's different.
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02-28-2006, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cisyouc
AOL freely distributes the AOL client. If you ran an AOL server, theoretically, you'd get in serious trouble for distributing the AOL client for the purpose of being compatible with your AOL server.
If you said your AOL server works with such and such AOL CD's.. that's different.
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I can let Cis use my car, heck I can let ANYONE use my car, but that doesnt mean you can let someone use my car.
Sony lets you USE there software, read the fine print, you do NOT own it, you buy the right to USE it.
Last edited by mattmeck; 02-28-2006 at 01:17 PM..
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