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Old 01-18-2009, 03:30 PM
Kobaz
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I think that you have to define something. Babies are born having needs that can only be met from external sources. Human babies are born with set responses to faces, boobs and have predefined responses to touch for example. They don't really know anything, that comes later as they categorise things as pleasure or pain. It's debatable when the concept of Self develops - it takes at least a few weeks if my experience as a parent is anything to go by.

An example would be when a baby discovers its own feet. It certainly looks as if there is no idea that these things are a part of Self, until the baby tries to bend them in a direction they don't go. Or when a toddler discovers its shadow - I've seen one of my sons in a panic about this thing that follows him around. Only over time did Zak learn that this was really an image of him (i.e. an extension or projection of Self).

All infants are born with immense amounts of wiring that defines responses to stimuli. Everything else develops as associations to that initial programming.
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