my 'problem' appeared to be a table called 'bots' in the database. when i re-sourced everything (drop_bots.sql, drop_player.sql,drop_system.sql) there was only 1 table left (bots). i dropped that as well, re-sourced everything with rev773, re-compiled and they seemed to work.
not 100% sure that was the problem, but could have been. haven't tried since then as i've been tinkering with the login server.
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