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02-24-2002, 04:21 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 90
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wouldn't it be possible for varant to scan the programs currently running in memory?
ARGH! I had a nice long response to this, and then the website stopped responding so I lost it before it was posted! So I'm going to be briefer this time (maybe it was a good thing SF ate the post  )
Short answer -- yes, they can detect it if they want to. Then, EQW could do things to hide itself, then Verant could adapt, and so on, just like the virus wars (Norton makes anti-virus software, NortonBackRoom, uh, I mean Evil Hacker Terrorists from Afganistan* make new viruses, Norton improves anti-virus software, EHTs improve viruses, etc.)
But will Verant waste time with something like that? Probably not. It would take time (and Verant's money) to combat EQW, and it would be a loosing battle (think RIAA vs. MP3). If Verant isn't smart enough to figure that out, then I guess we'll be annoyed by constant upgrades (think AOL vs. AIM compatible programs like Trillian).
* yes, that was a joke about how it's good business for Norton to make viruses that it can cure -- I'm pretty sure they're not actually doing that
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02-24-2002, 09:01 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 18
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You Have Been Enlightened! (3)
Hah! I hate it when they eat posts like that. "They" (the evil internet gremlins) do the same to me and seem to prefer detailed posts.
Anyways, thanks for the response.
It does strike me as a rather trivial thing to ban paying customers over, but I certainly wouldn't want to go about announcing it, though. :p
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02-25-2002, 02:51 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4
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Tale of the past
I'll tell you an old tale friends...
Long Ago ... when the pixels were still all over the screens, there were that company "Verant" who got aware of the presence of an evil program named "EQW" they killed they first few to use this program... Then this program got bigger in popularity and the verant folk's could'nt kill everyone's account since they would have lost TOO MUCH!! So now they ignores it...
Just dont talk about that on the servers... thats not a good thing to say... since tehy have logs... and yes they can know it without scanning your cpu...
Hator, Ex-Officiel Verant GM
And dont worry i wont say a thing... would be unwise since i "try" to use it too
... :p
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06-14-2003, 03:55 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2
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Heheheheheh
Do you know if it would be ok to go and say "Hey GM! PPL ARE USING EQEMU MORE THAN THIS!" LOG off, delete char, maybe even account, and then post a couple messages in Message Board on verant? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
it would piss em off, and I would luv 2 c their face. (excuse short sentances) BUT...IF ITS ILLEGAL AND COULD SHUT DOWN, I WONT DO.
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06-14-2003, 05:23 PM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 2,614
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Don't antagonize anyone...
Theres no point in it, and it's stupid, and it doesnt prove a thing except that you have nothing better to do with your time. Whats the point in trying to piss them off? They're just trying to do a job, raise kids, and have a life just like the rest of us.
Regardless of the legality of it, it is not in the spirit of this project to 'harass' other projects, or people, especially the one this entire venture is based upon.
My personal opinion is antics like that, that could possibly draw negative attention to the project, should be a bannable offense.
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06-15-2003, 06:47 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2
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Ai ai Cap'n
Okies, Wont harrass them, but somebody has been sending anonamous messages to me, like tons of em, saying"Are you afraid??" its really pissing me off.
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06-15-2003, 09:00 PM
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Dragon
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Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 539
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Anyway, keep in mind that without verant, EQ wouldn't exist, you wouldn't be on that forum, you couldn't use EQemu, etc etc... whatever they do, their techs try to do their best, i could bet it.
Of course, there's those eternal questions of "why do i pay for a buggy game ?", "why do i pay for a non existing customers service", "why do i need 512Meg or ram?" etc... but you know, if you compare how much you paid for your eq account to the time you spent playing, believe me, its far from being expensive, i considerate it as almost free in fact... Calculate how much cash you would have spent if you weren't playing EQ so much...
No, seriously, i m myself a developper, and i m persuaded that VI's job isnt that bad, you can't guess how many firms (at least here, in France) aren't even able to work as well as VI does, even for professional applications :(
so well, all considered, its not that bad...
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