new expansion - Page 2

KhaN · #16 05-07-2004, 02:49 AM

Too many expansions ruin a game.

The problem is Sony want people to continu play EQ, and for them, people wil only continu to play EQ if they experience new zones, mobs, items, levels. Its where they are totally wrong, what people is waiting is support, bug fix, events, people want to see you are here for them, not just "Hey kid, look at this badass moffo !"

Camphillips · #17 05-07-2004, 04:56 AM

lol, whast funniest is that ur bashing eq on EVERQUEST emulation boards. Sorry but Blizzard lets too many hackers in. And there is a reason why blizzard makes games like starcraft, diablo2, reguarl warcraft. They just cant make MMORPGs.

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so i have a feeling that eq2 is going to drive a stack deep in to eqn killing it for good cause soe well only focous on eq2 more

ok eq2 has been in development for 4 years. Now then, u are aware that there are TWO completely different teams for eq1 and eq2. EQ2 was mostly bug free a full year ago. Beta is going to be almost half a year. EQ2 will be good, very good imo. If WoW is so good, go plague their boards.

mikenune · #18 05-07-2004, 06:36 AM

First of all, I'd like to say that both EQ2 and WoW have their merits. . .

Now, with that being said, I'm going to go the WoW route. Definately. Blizzard has proven themselves over and over and over at making excelent, interactive games. I think they're going to do a great job with WoW. I think their support is going to be better than anything Sony can come up with.

I like their graphics and gameplay better.

But, most of all, I like the fact that WoW is going to have a direction. A purpose.

EQ was supposed to be an open-ended game. There was no point, no all-encompassing purpose to it. All you did was run around and kill stuff.

In WoW, Blizzard has said that they will guide you through the game. They funnel you to different areas of Azeroth. You don't have to go there, you don't have to "do things their way." They just give you bonuses for doing so.

Also, I see in WoW, a lot more GM events and dev interaction than in EQ2. And when the devs play the game with us and allow us to change the world, that just makes me want to play.

Now, back onto the original vein of this thread. . .

There are things that I dislike about this new expansion and things that I like.

I dislike the fact that, like they did with Luclin, SOE seems to be packaging their new graphics upgrades with the expansion. Thos of us that don't buy it are probably gonna be SOL (and no, I'm not talking about Shadows of Luclin! :P). Also, it looks like most of the new zones and areas to explore will be GoD related which will do a big fat nothing for my level 35 Shammy on EQLive. Finally, I dislike the fact that they're still not using the instanced zone technology (introduced in LDoN) for the new areas.

However, I DO like the fact that they're raising the max level from 65 to 70, adding new spells and abilities, and adding more AAs to the game. I also really, REALLY like the task system (I'm thinking of a mini-quest system) to help the lower and middle levels of the game get away from exp grinding.

All in all though, I'd say they're moving in the right dorection with this new expansion. The only thing that I'm seriously dissappointed in is the fact that virtually nothing has come of instanced zones. All the untapped potential there and nothing of use.

Personally, if I'm still playing EQ when this expansion comes out, I'm gonna buy it. By then though I hope to have moved on to WoW or CoH.

Camphillips · #19 05-07-2004, 06:45 AM

one of the biggest things that made me DROP the WoW beta testing was the graphics. Their kiddy....they look like cartoon characters. I dont wanna run around doing epic adventures slaying dragons and other beasts looking like a disney cartoon, it takes away the thrill of it. And i DID do beta testing, and ima tell u, and u can quote me, if even HALF of the things that where put into the beta go live, WoW will last a year, and after that people will be done with it and move onto EQ2.

mikenune · #20 05-07-2004, 06:48 AM

Personally, I love that style of graphics. It's very reminiscent(sp?) of anime.

As for the rest of your post, you're gonna have to be specific. I've never played WoW since I haven't (yet) made it into the beta so I have no idea what you're talking about. I would like to hear your opinions though!

Dave987 · #21 05-07-2004, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dleg6183

LOL you don't have to stop exping, you just receive a penalty. WoW will be better than EQ2. And I will give 3 reasons:

1. Sony, the god awful company, is in charge of EQ2

2. Blizzard, who makes excellent games and doesn't ruin something that is already very good, is making WoW.

3. AND my final point, sony ruined eq1 and they will ruin eq2.

Allll opinion there.

I'm not too sure which will be better.... the original EQ was the greatest thing since sliced bread (or beer, it's all good..) I havn't really played many Blizzard Games, though I have seen them, and they do look amazing.

I like some of the ideas from WoW , and also like some of the ideas from EQ2 ... with abit of mixing and matching there would be a perfect RPG...

Anyone reckon there will be a WoW:Emu? Or an EQEmu2? I know its very early , very very early to even think about this, but reckon either will have one? I've seen this elsewhere, but

"God bless Emu!!"

dleg6183 · #22 05-07-2004, 07:21 AM

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the original EQ was the greatest thing since sliced bread

The Key word is "Original".

And everyone that is talking about hackers and such. Thats because most of the information is stored client side on their previous games.

WoW will be like everquest where their characters will be stored server side, so unless you hack the WoW servers, good luck.

And to address the "bashing of eq on and emulation board", well I play eq here because it hasn't been ruined by Sony. The server ops here make customized servers, which in my opinion, sony should have done.

Camphillips · #23 05-07-2004, 07:28 AM

dleg, everquest in game has never been hacked. When people are talking about hacking they are talking about blizzard games. Go play diablo2 and starcraft, hacks up and down the chart. And blizzard has not been able to fix any of it. the one time something did slip threw sony in eq, it was 2 days before it was fixed, and the people who did it where banned. Biggest thing im afraid of in WoW is the same hacking pattern. If WoW even gets HALF as bad as diablo2 is, it wont be fun.

dleg6183 · #24 05-07-2004, 07:46 AM

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And everyone that is talking about hackers and such. Thats because most of the information is stored client side on their previous games.

WoW will be like everquest where their characters will be stored server side, so unless you hack the WoW servers, good luck

Here, ill quote myself.

The first paragraph speaks of previous Blizzard games of which most, if not all, information is stored client side, thus making it easy to hack. Mainly because they were supposed to be single player games first and multiplayer online games 2nd.

The 2nd paragraph speaks of how WoW will be run. WoW will have characters stored serverside to prevent hacking. Im sure there will be something like ShowEQ that could happen to WoW, but nothing like Diablo 2. (Ive played nearly all of Blizzards mainstream games).

Ashey · #25 05-07-2004, 04:04 PM

The early days of EverQuest were, for me anyway, bar none the most fun, engrossing, thrilling, and exciting times Ive ever had playing a video game...ever...since the the first time I played Super Mario Bros on the NES.

If EQ2 can deliver that again, thats where Ill be. All games get old after a while, thats just how they work. The only way to keep peope from getting bored and setting the game aside is to add expansion packs. But the problem witht hat is that they change the game in such a huge way, that often times aspects that people like are lost, and eventually they get tired of the game since it starts to appeal to them less and less.

Like I said, if EQ2 engrosses me the same way that EQ did, Im gonna stay there, at least until the inevitable expansions start coming in.

aendaar · #26 05-07-2004, 05:53 PM

WoW = all hype...its EQ with shiny(er) graphics and a retarded rest function.... as far as i see it, there are only two MMOG's coming up worth taking a look at

Guild Wars, its pretty much the same as the guild wars server here on emu...but without the hemeroid graphics..btw...download the client thing and play the same thing that will be on display during E3

EQ2...we all know about EQ2... EQ2 > everything except SWG and guildwars

Camphillips · #27 05-08-2004, 01:58 AM

eq2 is going to even be better than SWG and guildwars (even though iv never heard of the latter)

vingafsel · #28 05-08-2004, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Camphillips

eq2 is going to even be better than SWG and guildwars (even though iv never heard of the latter)

Sounds like a fanboy comment to say something not realeased is better then something you never heard of.

CrypticX · #29 05-08-2004, 08:27 AM

Yet another sad, desperate attempt to revive EQ...

Lasiel · #30 05-08-2004, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Camphillips

Sorry but Blizzard lets too many hackers in. And there is a reason why blizzard makes games like starcraft, diablo2, reguarl warcraft. They just cant make MMORPGs.

There were a lot of 'hackers' in EQ as well. Until MMOG's are entirely server side, with nothing but rendering done client side, it will remain that way. Every MMOG I have ever played has had, in one form or another, the ability to 'hack' something. EQ, AC, DAoC, AO etc, all can be 'hacked'.