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Old 01-04-2004, 01:13 AM
Naeadil
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Default World of WarCraft - Alpha Leaked

http://skull.vinyamar.com/news.php - Main distributor
http://www.wowforge.net/ - Attempting to Emulate a server.
http://imageshack.us/host/noSensitveINFO.JPG.php - Proof
http://s90685286.onlinehome.us/tos.html - Terms of Service, WoW
http://s90685286.onlinehome.us/wow.JPG - Proof
http://s90685286.onlinehome.us/wow2.JPG - Proof
http://s90685286.onlinehome.us/wow3.JPG - Proof

(no links to the alpha are here - it's being distributed on IRC).
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Old 01-04-2004, 06:00 AM
JohnRev
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Lol, damn...
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Old 01-04-2004, 10:20 AM
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Looks like warforge already bit the dust. rofl.
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Old 01-04-2004, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkyth
Looks like warforge already bit the dust. rofl.
WoWForge? It's still up buddy
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Old 01-04-2004, 11:11 AM
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So with that, I could play WoW right now lol?
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Old 01-04-2004, 03:10 PM
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Nope and there prolly wont be an emulator because its not a simple matchmaking software this time its a funny interactive MMORPG that would be like making eqemu without packet collecting!
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Old 01-05-2004, 01:45 AM
Naeadil
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Well I think their current goal is to just have a "sandbox" or single-player, empty, open world to run around in.
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Old 01-05-2004, 07:31 PM
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and that would be done:

http://home.no/lagra/ - Emulated Sandbox Server
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Old 01-05-2004, 09:47 PM
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DrPlump, they are getting packets from a certain secret "insider".
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Old 01-07-2004, 04:39 PM
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Player, not employee though as I understand
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Old 01-07-2004, 05:46 PM
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Well, here's my two cents...

I went on some unofficial WoW fan sites and people are uniformly upset about the leak, for varying reasons. The major reason seems to be for the leak itself, which would at the very least involve violating an NDA and at worst involve felony break-in to Blizzard's servers (unlikely though it may be). I can't say I blame them on that score (what can I say, I have a lot of friends in law enforcement). Most of the others are concerned that it might push the beta back or hurt Blizzard financially. It's possible, but since there is zero content with the leak (as there would be since it all has to reside on the server), I think that's unlikely in the extreme.

This concerns me in other ways:

I'm sure we're all aware that third-party servers are indeed 100% legal. If no one believes me, go look up Title 15, section 14 of U.S. Federal code (Title 15 covers antitrust law). There's a law that's been there since 1914 that says it's flat-out illegal to sell (it's termed "sale, etc." to make it even broader than that) anything with any stipulation that the buyer can't use competitors' products. Simply put, third-party servers are competing products and no vendor can legally bar you from using them. I'm not a lawyer, but the language in the law is plain enough to me to say that any such language is simply void. That doens't mean we can stand up to a lawsuit brought anyway (though we might win). No money, no defense. I dread a legal crusade by Blizzard on the leakers, because it might become a crusade against third-party servers in general.

What worries me is the blatancy of the leak and the "sandbox" effort stemming from it. Building a server based on illegally-obtained information is almost certainly not legal, but I'm concerned that we might be lumped in with them. There's a lot of talk on WoW message boards that EQ emulators exist as well. The talk is mostly non-judgmental, only judging EQEmu in terms of how fun (or not fun) it is to play on the servers, but that doesn't mean it will stay that way. I wonder if this might be a good time to consider if there's a way to make sure people understand that we're not like or associated with the people that leaked WoW.

On another note, regarding the servers: on the WoW boards there's a lot of talk about third-party servers in general, and the talk I've been hearing vis-a-vis EQEmu is that it doesn't compare to live. I think, though, that the ones saying that are missing the point: from what I read here, the most widely anticipated and lauded servers are the ones the intentionally *deviate* from live servers. Custom quests, reconnected zones, different rules, and other custom content are only some of the ways where EQEmu gives players a new, fresh experience, but somehow the message isn't getting out. I don't know if that's good or bad -- the universal opinion I saw was that we were decidedly no threat to SOE (which is true) and perhaps that perception is at least a good thing. However, I think customization is definitely the single best feature EQEmu (and third-party servers in general) offer. Perhaps it's not easy enough for the casual user yet, but I do think it should be our first mission.

Okay, that was a lot more than two cents -- it's just the mishmash of thoughts I've formed so far on this issue.

Wind
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Old 01-07-2004, 06:45 PM
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They didn't steal anything, the guy who gave them the stuff is techniquely stealing it, as the rumor goes. The rumor is pretty sound though.. but I doubt this would push back the beta.

Beta will have sign ups at end of the month, it's not going to change.

If people want to ruin the fun of playing it before release, let them.. I know i'm going to wait, even if I had access to alpha.
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Old 01-07-2004, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
They didn't steal anything, the guy who gave them the stuff is techniquely stealing it
thats called recieving stolen property, which IS against the law so anyone who has a copy or benifits from a copy of the "leak" is just as guilty as the person who leaked it.
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Old 01-08-2004, 06:42 AM
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It's certainly not receiving stolen property.

The reason you are legally suspect if you receive a *tangible* piece of stolen property is because YOU have it and not the owner.

In digital cases you're only morally suspect if you receive stolen items.

You didn't sign an NDA therefore are not bound to anything. You have no agreement with Blizzard at all.

They suffer no loss for you having an alpha copy of their client, especially when beta is a month away.

just my 2 cp.
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Old 01-10-2004, 12:27 PM
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Heard this shit's fake...
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