7.0 Titanium setup for clueless newbs. I'm the guinea pig!

[Kirgothi]

Ok, the idea here is that I will try to setup a server using eqemu 7.0 one step at a time. That way, if there are any problems along the way, the experts like Cavedude can help out.

Ok, as it stands I have my shiny new chromatic Everquest Titanium box here and I have just finished installing it. (btw, did anyone else have the install process just freeze after clicking "Ok" when it asks for a new disk and have to keep starting over?)

According to the guide here:http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka...owsServerGuide
The next step is to check things out with EQVerCheck. (3.1.1 is available to download at the bottom of the page linked to by the words "EQVerCheck" instead of "here") This is what I get:

EQVerCheck Core 3.1.1 Loaded.
Scanning Files...
Reading eqgame.exe...
Reading EQGraphicsDX9.dll...
Reading eqmain.dll...
Reading EQGFX_DX8.dll...
Reading mss32.dll...
Checksums Generated. Generating Verson Strings...
Version Number: SEQB6367
Extended Version Number: EQ61EA436B52DAE106831BDF131E2727A6B8291587
Attempting to connect to EQEMulator.net...
Connected to EQEMulator.net.
Retrieving 508 bytes of data...
Connection Complete.
 Scanning...
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EQVerCheck has identified this EQ Version, SEQB6367, to be compatible with the Titanium EQEmu server releases, and is available at the eqemulator.net:5998 loginserver.

Looks good so far right? The guide next goes over some steps to see if your client can connect to a public server that is already running. The directions are pretty straight forward with one tiny exception: after renaming your old eqhost.txt file to eqhost.legit.txt, you want to open your text editor and type in the lines shown and name it eqhost.txt. Make sure you save after your done.

Now the guide goes through setting up Mysql and Perl and the Perl Modules. Is this the next step for 7.0? Are the commands listed there still ok for 7.0?

[cavedude]

Installing the Perl modules (Step 3) are no longer needed for 0.7.0.

[Kirgothi]

Ok, now we just follow the guide to download and install MySQL and Perl. Make sure you use the links in the guide, there seem to be a lot of posts talking about other versions of MySQL that don't work so well with eqemu.

I only had one oddity during the perl installation. At the end, after it is finished installing, there is a final window with a check box for "display release notes." If I leave that checked, Norton starts going crazy with "malicious script" warnings. Seeing as I am a clueless newb anyways, I probably wont understand what is in the Perl release notes so I just unchecked the box and there were no problems.

And thanks to the wonderful Mr. Cavedude we know that we do not need to do the Perl Modules.

So what is our next step? I was thinking it is time to use the infamouse Cavedude 3.1 installer. If so, are there any tips on what settings to chose during install? Perhaps someone can explain the differences between minilogin and public?

From the rather cryptic explanations on the pages for them I was thinking that public is for setting up a server that anyone can log into from Eqemu.net. Is minilogin for setting up a "private" server that only people you invite can get to? Am I even right about public?

[jimbabwe]

Edit: nevermind, I answered this by reading cavedudes 3.0 install document.

could you tell me which version of perl you used, and possibly a link to download it? I'm having all sorts of problems with perl :(

[sesmar]

Public login means that you will use the Public login server hosted by EqEmulator.net. This will make it so anyone with an account registered through EqEmulator.net can log into your server. The Public Login server is a secure server requiring a username and password for authentication.

Minilogin means that you will run your own login server named Minilogin.exe. This is used primarily for Lan connections and authenticates based on IP address. This means that the server tells what user you are based on your IP address and not the username and password.

I hope this helps explain that a little better.

[Kirgothi]

Thanks a lot Sesmar!

It looks like I am wanting Minilogin because I am only trying to set up a small server for me and my friends. Now, what order should I install things? Does it matter? I am guessing that because Cavedude's installer has options for Minilogin, I should install Minilogin first. But...

The Minilogin guide here:
http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka...MiniLoginSetup
says that it assumes you have not set up your database for Minilogin yet. It also mentions some stuff about ignoring some database redundancy errors. That leads me to believe that we should have a database already set up before installing Minilogin. That would mean running Cavedude's installer first.

Does it matter what order you install these things?

[sesmar]

The DRP ServerPack will install the Minilogin Server and mark the correct server variables in the database as well as setup your config file for you to use Minilogin if you select this option.

If you want to do a manual setup of Minilogin I would suggest installing the database and EqEmu server first then configuring them to use Minilogin.

[Kirgothi]

Does the DRP ServerPack install the database as well? I am just wondering what the easiest next step would be after installing MySQL and Perl.

[cavedude]

3.0 comes with both my database and PEQ's. 3.1 only comes with mine.

[Kirgothi]

Ok, not to be like a broken record, but what do you do next after installing MySQL and Perl? Will your 3.0 installer work with eqemu7.0?

[cavedude]

Next step is to run the installer. It is crucial to specify the proper directory for both EverQuest AND MySQL to the installer. Otherwise the spells won't get copied over and the database won't source properly. No 3.0 is for 0.6.6 but honestly it's a lot more stable. 0.7.0 has some minor problems at the moment.

[Kirgothi]

1. Would it be better to install the 3.1 serverpack now or later after these "minor problems" are fixed?
2. If the serverpacks come with your database, will new users still need to get the PEQ databases?

What exactly to the databases do anyways? I read somewhere that they allow quests to work. What would be the difference if one used just PEQ, PEQ and your database, or just your database?

[sesmar]

The Database contains all the information about the World. It contains everything from the Server Variables to Spawn Groups, NPC information, Loot Tables, everything. Except Spells. As for which to use, you can only use one at a time. PEQ or ProjetEQ (you can read more about them at http://projecteq.net) have been working on creating a completely live like experience and have the world populated up to Luclin. Cavedudes database is populated up to parts of OoW and GoD. I would suggest you set up both of them and try them both out. See which one you like best.

[cavedude]

Yeh I would stick with 3.0 for now. 3.1 is for the more brave folk out there and for anybody who only has access to the Titanium client. Though, the installation procedure of both are the same. Maybe just specify that 3.0 is for 0.6.6 (mostly stable) and 3.1 is for 0.7.0 (still rough atm, use only if you have the Titanium client)

In addition to Sesmar's perfect description, PEQ's database is about quality, and mine is all about quantity

[Kirgothi]

Well, being a clueless newb, I am one of the people that only has access to Titanium. I think that for the time being I will just try your 3.1 serverpack and consider this one of those "learning experiences" that really old people are so fond of talking about.