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10-06-2003, 09:27 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7
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Source code for Minilogin
Can someone point me to the location of the Minilogin source code. I want to add some functionality to it to allow multiple user ID logins and to utilize the accounts file.
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10-06-2003, 12:48 PM
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Discordant
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 452
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Minilogin source has never , is not , and never will be open source.
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10-06-2003, 12:56 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Why is that???
I guess my question is why not? What make this piece of code different from the all the other source code???? It's unsupported code and there is much potential for improvements within it. If you ask for an improvement you get the "That unsupported".... Well, If thats the case why not let delevopers out there tweek the code for thier own needs, Why hide the source???
Makes no sense to me!!! 
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10-06-2003, 01:47 PM
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Dragon
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 609
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We have a very good reason to hide the source for a login server: encrypted passwords.
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10-06-2003, 03:04 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Same reason the loginserver code is not released.
There is no need for your seperate loginserver anyways unless you are trying to prove that you made the emulator yourself. Just use the EQEMu loginserver and you'll be fine.
And if you're trying to setup a lanserver, then you're obviously missing some key points.
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11-12-2003, 04:44 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 81
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Just looking at my own copy of the login server gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
Now to go off and practive the secret handshake...
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11-12-2003, 05:40 AM
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Senior Member Former EQEmu Developer Current EQ2Emu Lead Developer
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,065
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heh too bad thats outdated and it doesnt include the crypto that you need to be able to use it 
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11-12-2003, 06:36 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 81
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Yeah I know. I've got no idea why I kept it.
Lets just call it novelty value
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11-15-2003, 05:24 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 10
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Quote:
There is no need for your seperate loginserver anyways unless you are trying to prove that you made the emulator yourself. Just use the EQEMu loginserver and you'll be fine.
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Sure there's a need. My wife and I both want to play on our own server. We're not interested in setting up a server that can be seen by the outside world, in fact, it wouldn't matter if the outside world COULD see it as we have Charter for an ISP and they don't allow servers. However, the way my LAN is set up, I can't go through the EQEMu login servers to play. My Linux box, the one that runs the server, is also my gateway. If I set up the server to work on the external IP address (which I'd have to do to connect to the EQEMu login servers), I can't connect from my LAN. If I set it up to use Minilogin, I can only connect one account at a time. I seem to remember a long time ago when MiniLogin would allow up to 16 connections at once, which even that would be overkill. If I had a MiniLogin that allowed even just 2 connections at once, I'd be able to do what I want to. As it is, I can't, and I guess I won't be able to.
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11-15-2003, 05:34 AM
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I run 4.4 and 5.0 with minilogin and i can have more then 1 account on at one time, i have had all 3 of my computers on it at once. My best guess would be its a set up issue not a minilogin issue.
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11-15-2003, 06:03 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 105
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There's supposed to be a MiniLoginAccounts.ini which specifies which IPs use which accounts in a format like IP name password.
Although upon trying this myself, I receive this output of minilogin:
LoginServer.ini read.
Error in MiniLoginConfig.ini on line #1: Invalid format, should be 'IP username
password'
MiniLoginAccounts.ini read.
Server mode: Standalone
Login server listening on port:5999
While both my .ini's look like:
127.0.0.1 name pass
A quick search shows no answers on the solution for this yet, but Mattmeck, you suggested there's a weird character seperation in this post.
Edit: Seperating the fields with the space character from ALT+0160 seems to get rid of the error message with minilogin, though despite my having defined 127.0.0.1 and my external IP to be a non-eqemu account, world.exe still reports that account connecting. Does Minilogin 5.0 still support multiple accounts? Perhaps the primary machine running minilogin always logs in as 'eqemu' and others are able to be specified?
Another edit: This was answered here and thus far appears to work rather well.
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11-18-2003, 07:47 PM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 71
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I was wondering, could the encryption and decryption routines be made into pre-compiled DLLs?
That way, the minilogin source can be released or at least an API whitepaper
so someone can make a graphical client?
Maybe a graphical client will let you be able to monitor connections on the fly, kick users etc...
Just a thought =)
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11-19-2003, 08:29 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 0
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Chrysm you know that people can crack DLLs, we already have a DLL but it has more features than just the loginserver crypt plus only two people have the source to the DLL.
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11-19-2003, 11:39 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by image
Chrysm you know that people can crack DLLs, we already have a DLL but it has more features than just the loginserver crypt plus only two people have the source to the DLL.
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An idea would be more to source it with the encryption routines pre-compiled into DLLs, BUT have eqemu's general login server encryption different than the one that's released. Meaning having a more generic encryption routine for the general public's download.
Granted that would make private servers in this case less secure, but if there's no public showing for it, wouldn't it be pointless to be more secure?
I'd find it a trade off in that case, you can have your own login, but it's not as secure as the one that eqemu runs.
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11-19-2003, 11:51 AM
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have eqemu's general login server encryption different than the one that's released.
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How would that work ? As I understand it, the login server needs to decrypt the password that the EQ client encrypts. To have a different encryption algorithm would require altering the client, no ? (or just ignore the password, as I think minilogin does)
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